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Azvanna
15 Jun 2016, 12:25
I read this article this morning on the Poe calling for the sacraments to be made available for people with a disability. I was skeptical of the title because I couldn't believe it wasn't the case already. There's a few suggestions and remarks by the Pope that are so common sense, I can't believe it's not already happening. Eg offering to 'prepare' a person who is deaf through sign language.
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/06/12/pope-says-disabled-must-access-sacraments/

One of the statements he made here reminded me of a post Thalassa made recently quoting Phillip Carr-Gomm and the Law of the Changing Tide. Her quote included explanation of how we can make other people's reality better. This is what the Pope had to say: [/quote] the world doesn't become better for the apparently "perfect" people living in it, but through solidarity, Mutual acceptance and respect.[/quote]

I very much hope that Catholic parishes heed the Pope's words on this. It is a disgrace to exclude people because of a condition that cannot be helped. After all, it's not what goes into the mouth that makes someone clean or unclean, it is matters of the heart.

B. de Corbin
15 Jun 2016, 12:35
This pope is the best thing to happen to Catholics in 2000 years.

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 13:27
It is a strange thing that a new pope has to point out the actual words and meanings that that Jesus guy said so clearly..

Azvanna
15 Jun 2016, 13:44
This pope is the best thing to happen to Catholics in 2000 years.

Agreed! So much so, people from other denominations believe him to be the anti-Christ or whatever. To quote George Bernard Shaw: all great truths began as heresy.

B. de Corbin
15 Jun 2016, 13:54
Agreed! So much so, people from other denominations believe him to be the anti-Christ or whatever. To quote George Bernard Shaw: all great truths began as heresy.


And Plato - The excessive increase of anything causes a reaction in the opposite direction.

Azvanna
15 Jun 2016, 14:01
And Plato - The excessive increase of anything causes a reaction in the opposite direction.

Oh my goodness you hit a nerve there!!! This exact thing has happened in my church's music team recently and ended with the Worship Pastor being moved to a different department. I'm going to put that on my team's facebook page. Lol

Medusa
15 Jun 2016, 15:04
I'm not surprised. Catholics of yore (and side eyeing those of now) still believe epilepsy or mental illness was the sign of the devil. Right along side a back mole. So this is a good move forward. And so crappy he has to remind the church goers that this should be happening. He's going to drag Catholics out of the dark ages eventually.

these opinions were brought to you by personal catholic experiences and not just bad mouthing the religion. your mileage may vary.

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 15:07
I understand,I had to do catechism because of my FRENCH Catholic Grandmother,almost as strict as Irish Catholic..or maybe Spanish (inquisition) Catholic..

thalassa
15 Jun 2016, 15:10
One of my biggest problems with magical thinking (and by this, I mean the idea that if you only work hard enough, spend thrifty enough, pray hard enough, have enough faith, etc., it will all be okay. And if it isn't, it's your own fault because you had to have done something wrong. You called in sick, you didn't pray enough, you secretly lusted after that cute girl, you just didn't try hard enough....because if you had, you wouldn't have been hit by a drunk driver, you wouldn't have been laid off, your mom wouldn't have cancer, you'd make enough money not to need food stamps.

Which is all pretty much BS.

I don't care if it's a for of Christianity or Paganism, sometime shit just happens. And yes, sometimes it happens because we make terrible choices, but everyone makes terrible choices quite regularly, and most of the time those terrible choices have very little consequence. People shouldn't be unduly punished for the Perfect Storm sort of scenario, when most of the time, the situation itself is punishment enough (especially if no one is actually hurt).

Hawkfeathers
15 Jun 2016, 15:13
What some call magical thinking, others call faith. Which some call bs. And around and around we go....

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 15:16
I am thinking,trying to find a witty reply,something with political comedy and just a taste of pathos mixed with a deeper truth you will understand on your death bed...Sorry,I got nothing..

Hawkfeathers
15 Jun 2016, 15:23
I am thinking,trying to find a witty reply,something with political comedy and just a taste of pathos mixed with a deeper truth you will understand on your death bed...Sorry,I got nothing..

We're in big trouble.....

4874

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 15:24
That explains a LOT...

Sean R. R.
15 Jun 2016, 16:17
We're in big trouble.....

4874

Oh wow I'm done for.

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 16:26
Hay God boy,how you doing,hope those floods did not get to you.

Sean R. R.
15 Jun 2016, 16:54
Hay God boy,how you doing,hope those floods did not get to you.

Thanks for your concern :) The floods did not affect the area I'm in, and I've checked with most people I know in France, they're all ok.

Azvanna
15 Jun 2016, 18:32
Anunitu, 2 of your posts have resulted in 6 off-topic posts. I'm pretty sure you were recently warned on another thread for creating a similar issue. A little chitchat I would be ok with but, dude, you're getting really sloppy With where you decide to post. You could have posted your greeting to Sean direct to his wall and your post about having nothing to say needn't have been made at all. I could put it down to a senior moment, but this does happen too regularly. Please try to be better at knowing where to post in the future.

anunitu
15 Jun 2016, 21:48
sorry if I am a person who has a mind that wonders. I suppose I should stick with what are you thinking and Adult rants and regular rants,and stay out of events of the day,or subjects that are specific. Best I suppose not to post in anything other than simple things.