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CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 05:40
First, thank you SO MUCH to everyone who answered my previous thread.... of course, nothing bad happened to me and I worried for absolutely nothing........ no surprise there. :D

Sorry I keep bugging you guys, I'm just trying to understand what I'm doing.....

A couple people mentioned I should wait before trying to call out to gods. I agree with you- I specifically called out to gods this one time because I was making an offering to Bast. I probably won't try calling out to gods for a while. :)

So I don't really know what I did, but basically this was what happened- and if you guys could tell me if I'm doing something wrong or dangerous that would be fantastic.

I spent a few minutes just listening to instrumental (I listened to it through the entire time) and calming and quieting my mind. Then, I offered the items I had on a table in front of me to Bast.

I asked the gods if they wanted anything of me to send me a sign. (As someone else brought to my attention, I did specify GODS. I did not invite any ONE- like demons and spirits. So at least I didn't do that.)

Okay so after that is where I might have done something wrong. A friend of mine told me to try visualizing myself somewhere, so I visualized myself in a field with tall grass. There was a forest on the left, so I walked through it for a while. Eventually I came to a cave, and went inside. I wandered around, eventually coming across steps, and finally a stone door that blended in with the wall of the cave. I opened it, and I couldn't see what was beyond it, it was too dark. When I went inside, my thinking mind started to take over, and what I saw changed a couple times, becuase I was trying to just see what I would see, but I think I just saw what I wanted to see. I saw a large statue of Anubis, holding a flame. But again, I think that was just something I wanted to see.
Then I opened my eyes.

Actually, at first it was hard to keep my concentration on the forest, but as time went on it became easier for me to focus and explore. However, I was still aware I was in fact in my living room, and I was able to control what I saw- I just tried not to. Random thoughts did sometimes zoom into my head as well.

I honestly think I was trying way too hard, which is part of the problem.

But, I think I might have done it right....... see my mind never shuts up. The harder I try to shut it up, the worse it gets. But when I was meditating (or trying to anyway) my mind was finally quiet...... it was different, but it was nice.

I'm not going to call out to any gods until I get more experienced with meditating, I didn't feel a connection anyway, even when I made the offering. I wanted to try it to see if anything happened, but nothing did so. :)

I'm going to start a regular routine though.... I'm going to meditate at night before I go to bed..... :)

Any thoughts on what I did? If you have no clue don't feel to bad, I don't even really know what I did. :D

Medusa
13 Jul 2015, 09:37
You need to stop.

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 09:39
You need to stop.
Explanation please? If I'm doing something wrong, please tell me.......

Medusa
13 Jul 2015, 10:03
Explanation please? If I'm doing something wrong, please tell me.......

I think you are flooding our forums with every single little question. I get you want to learn. At 16 we are all so eager and sincere. Just back off a bit. Read a bit and listen. You are going to stress yourself out kid.

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 10:19
I think you are flooding our forums with every single little question. I get you want to learn. At 16 we are all so eager and sincere. Just back off a bit. Read a bit and listen. You are going to stress yourself out kid.

I'm sorry............ I really am.....................
I don't have a lot of resources..... I don't have any other places I can go to ask questions, and reading about things is extremely confusing and extremely stressful to me, trust me I tried, it almost made me give up...... I'm trying to learn but I learn by asking questions..................
My Aspergers makes me ask questions very impulsively.......
I'm always stressed out no matter what.........

Medusa
13 Jul 2015, 10:23
I'm bi polar. I get the frantic mind. And when I see another one my bi polar gets upset.
You are going to burn out with the questions and people will stop trying to help. Just relax and like I said, read a bit. If not, people will just stop answering your questions or just not care and give you crappy answers. Slow down. Enjoy the place.

Gleb
13 Jul 2015, 10:29
I think you are flooding our forums with every single little question. I get you want to learn. At 16 we are all so eager and sincere. Just back off a bit. Read a bit and listen. You are going to stress yourself out kid.

I'm sorry............ I really am.....................
I don't have a lot of resources..... I don't have any other places I can go to ask questions, and reading about things is extremely confusing and extremely stressful to me, trust me I tried, it almost made me give up...... I'm trying to learn but I learn by asking questions..................
My Aspergers makes me ask questions very impulsively.......
I'm always stressed out no matter what.........
No, it's important to be in the middle. To ask questions AND watch, listen and so on. Medusa - if she doesn't ask questions, she will never get the proper answers. CrystalJackal - asking questions is important, but like Medusa said - try looking more in our forums. Perhaps you'll find something useful.
If one only watches and listens, it will lead only to the person's loss of self esteem and just ruin his/her life. So CrystalJackal - stay in the middle. :)

Medusa
13 Jul 2015, 10:34
Yeah a good mix is good. I agree Gleb.

MaskedOne
13 Jul 2015, 10:37
Explanation please? If I'm doing something wrong, please tell me.......

You aren't in violation of any forum rules. This thread is slightly redundant and I may merge it with the original since it's effectively reporting on events there. Redundant thread creation is no great sin though unless it gets to the point where you're spamming (you aren't there) and the day that starts with the staff being that anal will probably end with several members banned when they discover that extremely anal staff are extremely anal in multiple arenas.

With the rule point covered, a lot of people go straight to the new posts list when they log in and it will tend to exasperate people if they log in and 8 new threads with the same originator all pop up in their unreads. If what you want to say fits perfectly well within an existing thread then you generally net less exasperation by using the existing thread. This is not a formal rule (beyond that site staff reserve the right to merge threads at will) but it is a piece etiquette that makes getting along with people easier.

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 11:06
No, it's important to be in the middle. To ask questions AND watch, listen and so on. Medusa - if she doesn't ask questions, she will never get the proper answers. CrystalJackal - asking questions is important, but like Medusa said - try looking more in our forums. Perhaps you'll find something useful.
If one only watches and listens, it will lead only to the person's loss of self esteem and just ruin his/her life. So CrystalJackal - stay in the middle. :)

I know.......... contrary to apparently popular belief, I DO look through the forums, and I DO read. I look through the forums I just never find an answer......... I try and look online....... I never find an answer.......... I just never find an answer................


I had three times more questions than what I've posted..... I found the answer to those by reading........ I spent hours trying to find the answers to the questions I posted here but I never found them........ so I asked here........

I try, but I always find a way to screw up.......
I'm sorry.

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You aren't in violation of any forum rules. This thread is slightly redundant and I may merge it with the original since it's effectively reporting on events there. Redundant thread creation is no great sin though unless it gets to the point where you're spamming (you aren't there) and the day that starts with the staff being that anal will probably end with several members banned when they discover that extremely anal staff are extremely anal in multiple arenas.

With the rule point covered, a lot of people go straight to the new posts list when they log in and it will tend to exasperate people if they log in and 8 new threads with the same originator all pop up in their unreads. If what you want to say fits perfectly well within an existing thread then you generally net less exasperation by using the existing thread. This is not a formal rule (beyond that site staff reserve the right to merge threads at will) but it is a piece etiquette that makes getting along with people easier.

I only started a new thread becuase I didn't know how to add to the original thread.............
I'm really terrible with technology.......... I'm sorry.......

MaskedOne
13 Jul 2015, 11:15
I know.......... contrary to apparently popular belief, I DO look through the forums, and I DO read. I look through the forums I just never find an answer......... I try and look online....... I never find an answer.......... I just never find an answer................


I had three times more questions than what I've posted..... I found the answer to those by reading........ I spent hours trying to find the answers to the questions I posted here but I never found them........ so I asked here........

I try, but I always find a way to screw up.......
I'm sorry.

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I only started a new thread becuase I didn't know how to add to the original thread.............
I'm really terrible with technology.......... I'm sorry.......

Like I said, you've made no major errors yet. Getting used to a forum is a learning curve. Calm down. I'm probably the most vocal of the staff right now. If I felt that anything you've done to date required an apology then you would know it in no uncertain terms. You have not made any error requiring worry to date.

anunitu
13 Jul 2015, 11:22
If MO says its all good,then trust me its all good..

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 11:26
Like I said, you've made no major errors yet. Getting used to a forum is a learning curve. Calm down. I'm probably the most vocal of the staff right now. If I felt that anything you've done to date required an apology then you would know it in no uncertain terms. You have not made any error requiring worry to date.

Most likely I worry whether it's required or not. :)

Ah, I usually apologize for everything as not to risk offending someone- I have a hard time telling apart tones of voice and I can't tell when someone is angry with me or not. And I know I overreacted... it's very easy to get a reaction out of me...

B. de Corbin
13 Jul 2015, 11:30
CrystalJackel, with the technique you've described, the problem of causing what one should be allowing is typically the major problem. It takes practice.

The advice I can give you is to practice a relaxing meditation, where you count breathes (usually to 7). When you find yourself going off focus, relax extra hard, and let your anticipation just ride.

The attitude you want to cultivate is one in which you a quietly, calmly, waiting - but not for anything in particular, or with any feelings of expectation.

Once you find that that state of mind be courses easier, then allow yourself to watch the images that take place internally. What you see something you haven't called up yourself, gently put your attention on the thing, and watch, follow, or interact as seemed appropriate.

Always being carefully to avoid applying conscious intent.

anunitu
13 Jul 2015, 11:35
There is a concept of "Being in the moment" or as Ram Dass would put it "Be here now" it is a state of mind where the future has not arrived,and the past has vanished,and all you really have is this second in time to deal with..

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 12:24
CrystalJackel, with the technique you've described, the problem of causing what one should be allowing is typically the major problem. It takes practice.

The advice I can give you is to practice a relaxing meditation, where you count breathes (usually to 7). When you find yourself going off focus, relax extra hard, and let your anticipation just ride.

The attitude you want to cultivate is one in which you a quietly, calmly, waiting - but not for anything in particular, or with any feelings of expectation.

Once you find that that state of mind be courses easier, then allow yourself to watch the images that take place internally. What you see something you haven't called up yourself, gently put your attention on the thing, and watch, follow, or interact as seemed appropriate.

Always being carefully to avoid applying conscious intent.

Yes, I see what you mean. Thank you so much! I was trying to, but hehe, my mind half shutting up is a miracle in itself.

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There is a concept of "Being in the moment" or as Ram Dass would put it "Be here now" it is a state of mind where the future has not arrived,and the past has vanished,and all you really have is this second in time to deal with..

First, your signature is amazing and I never noticed.

Secondly, ah, good advice, I have a hard time with that though. I have a hard time letting go of the past.... I dwell on my mistakes far too long........

Jembru
13 Jul 2015, 13:13
Why don't you give guided meditation a try to begin with? That's how I learnt to visualise when I was around your age. These days you don't even need to buy CD's (luckily, because some are terrible and I wasted quite a bit of money on them back in the day), you can find literally hundreds of them on youtube.

This one is a nice basic one to start you off with;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzV6J4WCwRM

Or you can fish around for something that catches your eye. I would advise listening to it first so you know what to expect. I'd just suggest going for something short and simple until you get used to it.

That way, you don't need to worry about 'doing it wrong', because some one will be talking you through the process.

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 13:29
Why don't you give guided meditation a try to begin with? That's how I learnt to visualise when I was around your age. These days you don't even need to buy CD's (luckily, because some are terrible and I wasted quite a bit of money on them back in the day), you can find literally hundreds of them on youtube.

This one is a nice basic one to start you off with;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzV6J4WCwRM

Or you can fish around for something that catches your eye. I would advise listening to it first so you know what to expect. I'd just suggest going for something short and simple until you get used to it.

That way, you don't need to worry about 'doing it wrong', because some one will be talking you through the process.

Thank you for the suggestion!
I actually have heard of guided meditation- I don't want to try one at first because I think I'd be too nervous to get too much into it. I will eventually try it, just probably later on in time.

anunitu
13 Jul 2015, 13:42
I do not know your birth sign,but I will mention mine,I am Pisces,and it is said that this sign is the sign of dreamers. I have mostly always meditated even with no idea that was what it was.
I once had a shrink say,you live mostly within your own mind,and are not completely attached to reality. I can at times(others have told me this) completely blank out,and because of its nature,even I was not aware I did this. There is a term "dissociation",it can be a sign of trauma(physical,mental,perhaps spiritual) What they say it is,is a way to flee from memories or triggers from those traumas. I did not suffer an abusive childhood,so for me I think it is from a spiritual event. I once attended a Buddhist class on meditation with a friend that was a LONG time student of meditation. When we begin the session,my friend remarked "How did you do that so fast",He had struggled to allow himself to enter meditation,and I just went in as I always did. As I have seen,some of us just seem to let go,and others are afraid. There is a thing about divorcing yourself from attachments in life. B. De. may be able to explain the concept better because he follows the Buddha.

Kind of the secret is learning to let go,and let the spirit move you.

CrystalJackal
13 Jul 2015, 13:45
I do not know your birth sign,but I will mention mine,I am Pisces,and it is said that this sign is the sign of dreamers. I have mostly always meditated even with no idea that was what it was.
I once had a shrink say,you live mostly within your own mind,and are not completely attached to reality. I can at times(others have told me this) completely blank out,and because of its nature,even I was not aware I did this. There is a term "dissociation",it can be a sign of trauma(physical,mental,perhaps spiritual) What they say it is,is a way to flee from memories or triggers from those traumas. I did not suffer an abusive childhood,so for me I think it is from a spiritual event. I once attended a Buddhist class on meditation with a friend that was a LONG time student of meditation. When we begin the session,my friend remarked "How did you do that so fast",He had struggled to allow himself to enter meditation,and I just went in as I always did. As I have seen,some of us just seem to let go,and others are afraid. There is a thing about divorcing yourself from attachments in life. B. De. may be able to explain the concept better because he follows the Buddha.

Kind of the secret is learning to let go,and let the spirit move you.

Ah, I see.. thank you so much! I'm a daydreamer, It's not hard for me to visualize things within my head. Letting go, now that's something I can't do as easily......

Gleb
14 Jul 2015, 12:23
I know.......... contrary to apparently popular belief, I DO look through the forums, and I DO read. I look through the forums I just never find an answer......... I try and look online....... I never find an answer.......... I just never find an answer................


I had three times more questions than what I've posted..... I found the answer to those by reading........ I spent hours trying to find the answers to the questions I posted here but I never found them........ so I asked here........

I try, but I always find a way to screw up.......
I'm sorry.

You say "I'm sorry" too much. ;)
Take life easily and go on. Everything is alright.

CrystalJackal
14 Jul 2015, 18:56
You say "I'm sorry" too much. ;)
Take life easily and go on. Everything is alright.
My mom always tells me that- I apologize constantly, hehehe ^^' I get so nervous
Thank you so much though ;;