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anubisa
14 Apr 2016, 00:22
Hi everyone,

So we're having ant problems in our kitchen and bathroom. I try to keep the kitchen cleaned (wash dishes, clean the counters, put up boxes of stuff, etc...) and we have been spraying the bathroom with both ant and roach spray and vinegar. However, the little buggers won't stay away. One of my organic cleaning books says that you can use peppermint, paprika, or red pepper around your doors to keep them out. However, I have dogs and I am worried about them. Is there a solution that you can recommend to me? We have a pantry and the buggers still get into it as well. Ugh! I appreciate any ideas. Thanks everyone.

anunitu
14 Apr 2016, 00:40
If you can find the main "Nest" you can use detergent to wipe out the "Nest" I had a nest that was under the driveway at a house I was living at,and I pored detergent and used a hose to finish them. You can also use detergent and water spray to kill them without worrying about harsh chemicals as well. I used a biodegradable one .

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Detergent makes water "Wetter" and it kills the ants and other insects. BTW farmers use detergent to allow water to penetrate their fields much better.

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Read here about wetter water. (http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1481271/dishwashing-liquid-added-to-plant-water)

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What I was talking about to kill ants.

https://youtu.be/m6m9xzhphLs

faye_cat
14 Apr 2016, 04:36
I had a lot of ants coming from the patio glass door. I used my cleaning solution of vinegar/baking soda and then vacuumed the area. I then laid down ground cinnamon along the entire strip of wall and door. Little buggers haven't been back since.

In the pantry and kitchen it shouldn't be too hard to lay it down along the walls and in the back, etc. I just did a super quick check and cinnamon is okay for dogs. Sometimes just deterring their path for a few days is enough to make them change their food hunting habits, if I remember right.

thalassa
14 Apr 2016, 05:38
Sprays don't work well for ants...you need a bait gel that they take back to their colony...once they've laid down a trail to your home, they know where the food is (http://icouzin.princeton.edu/pheromone-trail-networks-in-ants/). This is the time of year where they are coming out of dormancy in full force and on the hunt for good food sources. Either that, or obsessive cleaning with things that will neutralize their pheromones--vinegar and baking soda are both good for this, as are citrus oil cleaners. You can also sprinkle cinnamon or chili powder where they are coming in, or along their scent trail. But really, they come where the food is. You have dogs, dogs have food that is generally very easy to get to. All dog food should be in a plastic container, for starters. If you leave food out for them, make sure you clean floor really well with something that will destroy the scent trail. And look for where they are coming in at--most of getting rid of bugs is about preventing them from getting in in the first place. Close up the easy access points and make them work for it. Also look into food grade diatomaceous earth (you can order it on amazon or pick it up at lowes--make sure it is food food grade and not the pool filter kind).

anunitu
14 Apr 2016, 05:57
Speaking of bugs,I woke up to see one of those "stink" bugs just staring at me from my bedside table. Those little things creep me out,because I have no idea how they get in.
Once woke to find one sitting on my hand...

anubisa
14 Apr 2016, 07:32
Thank you everyone for the help. Definitely going to start putting the ideas into practice. I usually get the huge bags of dog food, but am going to get the smaller bags and put them in a plastic container. I am also going to start vacuuming and mopping the kitchen at least every other day. Thanks again.

anunitu
14 Apr 2016, 07:37
At least you don't have those electronic eating ants like in Texas.

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Here is a video about the "Crazy ants"

https://youtu.be/LmoCdeSHh_U

I would go crazy if I had to deal with ants eating electrical stuff.

Hawkfeathers
14 Apr 2016, 08:06
Last spring I had an infestation of ants in my mailbox. I tries cinnamon, etc. to no avail, and finally got some Terro brand gel, put some in there on the supplied little pieces of cardboard, left for a day, never saw another ant. As far as using it inside the house with dogs around, I have no idea. In the pantry, on a shelf where dogs aren't going, should be fine. If it was me, I'd keep the dogs confined elsewhere for a day and let it set out overnight where the ants have been, then take it up and clean the area.

anubisa
14 Apr 2016, 14:30
Thanks for the advice Hawkfeathers. I'll look into the Terro brand and see if it is okay for pets. Can't confine my dogs unfortunately.

monsno_leedra
14 Apr 2016, 14:47
Speaking of bugs,I woke up to see one of those "stink" bugs just staring at me from my bedside table. Those little things creep me out,because I have no idea how they get in.
Once woke to find one sitting on my hand...

Oh I hate those things. Seem's nothing will get ride of them and if they get excited or scared then they release their scent and hundreds of them then show up. Don't ever remember seeing them years ago but they sure are an issue now where I live. IN that regard almost as bad as the Lady Bugs who swarm and nest in the walls, attics or ground clutter near the houses. Have to use a shopvac or heavier to really suck them up and even that doesn't mean it will work.

anunitu
14 Apr 2016, 14:50
I read they came from south east Asia on a ship carrying food. Here in NJ,they are all over in the spring and summer..in Fall they go away I guess for the winter,but show up if the temp goes over like 45-50.

Hawkfeathers
14 Apr 2016, 14:51
Terro is actually more of a liquid than a gel, but they also make bait traps. It's basically Borax mixed with some kind of sweet syrupy stuff. You could probably make it yourself but would have to research how much Borax to use. The mfr. claims it's not toxic to people or pets, but I'd check that a million different places and err on the side of caution!

monsno_leedra
14 Apr 2016, 15:03
I read they came from south east Asia on a ship carrying food. Here in NJ,they are all over in the spring and summer..in Fall they go away I guess for the winter,but show up if the temp goes over like 45-50.

I think ours go dormant during the winter but if we get a few days of warm later in winter they show up then vanish again. Yet by late Feb to mid March they start to show up in force and will be a pain all late Spring & Summer with a scattering presence into early Fall. Can't even say they are nocturnal only or daylight only as they seem to show up whenever. Can't just squash them though sometimes you can catch them to at least get them out of the house.

No natural enemies here that I am aware of as even the birds don't seem to eat them around here.

anunitu
14 Apr 2016, 16:00
I am really surprised crows don't eat them,crows will eat ANYTHING!

monsno_leedra
14 Apr 2016, 16:06
I am really surprised crows don't eat them,crows will eat ANYTHING!

Haven't seen them eat the stink bugs or those pesky Japanese Beetles. We have a number of fruit tree's in our yard and the beetles get those a lot even if we spray them. Still trying to figure out what might work on each of them.

Medusa
14 Apr 2016, 17:36
We put borax all along the window sills where they are apt to come in. They never cross the line.

anubisa
14 Apr 2016, 19:29
Thanks for the advice everyone. I definitely am going to take the advice and hopefully these buggers will go away.

DragonsFriend
16 Apr 2016, 08:07
If your ant problems are carpenter ants the diatomacious earth will kill the nest quickly and it is safe around animals that are not insects. For sugar ants there are two baits that work well and both contain borax (boric acid). It is mixed with sugar syrup or peanut butter. If the ants are after protein the peanut butter mix works well and if they are after sugar then the sugar and borax works well. You can make your own with recipes found all over the net but you have to really mix the boric acid into the other ingredient very well or the ants will eat around the borax and it is just another food source.
Carpenter ants live in the wood structure of your home boring holes in the framework of a building causing structural damage.
Sugar ants are smaller which is why the diatomacious earth is not as effective on them and they live in the insulation in your home or in underground nests around your home. If you find a nest you can force them to move by pouring boiling water on the nest after sunset when all the ants are home. It takes a lot of boiling water so use a large pot to boil the water. This will kill most of the ants but some will survive and they will move the nest - maybe into your house so be sure to use something to protect your home before you destroy the nest. "Home Defense" is a good product that will last a year in dry conditions but if you live in rainy or humid areas then you will have to reapply after it rains or up to every month in humid weather. Caulking any cracks between doors, windows and the house and any gaps between counters and walls will help keep the sugar ants out. Using products like "Pledge" will keep the ants away indoors and it is safe for your pets. If you use vinegar to clean with be aware that vinegar is a sugar product and after it dries it will actually attract sugar ants. A spray bottle of vinegar will kill the ants on contact and it is safe for most pets (not sure about fish or birds). Spraying insects (ants, bees, wasps, and spiders) with "Pledge" will kill them at once. It suffocates them by coating their bodies with wax.
These are things I have used and have worked for me. I had to adjust the amount of boric acid in the baits to make it effective but it is very good.