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Muramasa
22 Feb 2019, 04:07
Being a huge fan of the show and Sarah Michelle Gellar, I start this topic. The first episode I watched when I was 10 year old kid (Killed by Death) and the show become a part of my childhood. This is how my interest in paganism and supernatural started.
I guess there are a lot of Buffy fans on this forum.

monsno_leedra
22 Feb 2019, 04:21
To be honest I don't think I've ever watched a single episode of the show. What I though was one turned out to be a different series staring another blonde lead but can't even think of that series name now.

anunitu
22 Feb 2019, 04:40
i never got the romanticizing of the vampire thing, death as social vision but reality is not so romantic,just the dust to dust belief.

Muramasa
22 Feb 2019, 05:16
I would gladly choose to be a cursed immortal, so long as my strength grows with age. Either that, or early and heroic death.

monsno_leedra
22 Feb 2019, 05:28
I would gladly choose to be a cursed immortal, so long as my strength grows with age. Either that, or early and heroic death.

In truth I think you'd like the modern westernized vampire motif, doubt you'd like the older eastern european version of the vampire motif. Prior to Bram Stoker giving Dracula sort of a sexy air the Vampire was not haunting castle's but haunting graveyard's and was more of a ghoul. Decaying clothes, rotting flesh and things, definitely nothing sexy or alluring about them. Far from Twilight or anything modern.

anunitu
22 Feb 2019, 05:45
yes this was the image

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTAxYjEyMTctZTg3Ni00MGZmLWIxMmMtOGM2NTFiY2U3Mm ExXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzkwMjQ5NzM@._V1_.jpg

monsno_leedra
22 Feb 2019, 06:11
Yeah, Nosferatu was a good capture of old Vampire imagery. Steven King in his Salem's Lot inspired movie with the same name captured that same imagery as well with the bluish skin and funky teeth look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDULrVSS0Tk

Muramasa
22 Feb 2019, 07:11
In truth I think you'd like the modern westernized vampire motif, doubt you'd like the older eastern european version of the vampire motif. Prior to Bram Stoker giving Dracula sort of a sexy air the Vampire was not haunting castle's but haunting graveyard's and was more of a ghoul. Decaying clothes, rotting flesh and things, definitely nothing sexy or alluring about them. Far from Twilight or anything modern.

Then I would put some effort to combine my lifestyle with being cursed immortal. :)

faye_cat
22 Feb 2019, 07:34
I loved that show. There were some genuinely meaningful moments that still impact me today.

monsno_leedra
22 Feb 2019, 07:39
Then I would put some effort to combine my lifestyle with being cursed immortal. :)

Personally I think being an immortal like a vampire you'd get period's where it be like Anne Rice's vampire's where they'd grow tired and just lay in the grave for period's tired of life. We just sort of presume that the grave implies "Ground" or "Soil" but who knows what that could actually mean. To step out of society like a hermit could equally be to take to the grave.

MaskedOne
22 Feb 2019, 17:38
Yeah, Nosferatu was a good capture of old Vampire imagery. Steven King in his Salem's Lot inspired movie with the same name captured that same imagery as well with the bluish skin and funky teeth look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDULrVSS0Tk

I don't remember if Straker ever explains why Barlowe (the Master) could simply take the cross away in that movie. I prefer the book version where Barlowe was a bit more human and did his own talking. Effectively though, if the priest had set aside his cross then he would have won that night. He didn't trust that God would stand with him absent the cross and that piece of doubt caused the cross to fail. The whole scene was a gamble that Barlowe took on how strong the priest's faith would be.

More on vampirism in general, there are so many interpretations of them that any assessment of pros and cons to being one would require first picking which kind of vampire. To use the Buffy-verse vampires as an example, there's literally no upside to being turned by one. BtVS vampires aren't cursed people. They are corpses animated by relatively weak demon. This rule only changes if particularly potent magic is used to stick a human soul back into the body. Getting turned by one is literally a case of, you die and a weak ass demon puts on your body as a costume to use for its own purposes. Most other modern fiction that I pay attention to has more continuity of identity between mortal and vampire. Outside of Twilight's blood sucking comic book characters masquerading as vampires, most other settings also have varying degrees of cursed status as well. Some of those curses are more irritating than others.

Bartmanhomer
22 Feb 2019, 18:49
I never watch Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It didn't catch my interest but I did watch her spin-off show Angel for a few episodes. :)

Muramasa
23 Feb 2019, 07:14
you die and a weak ass demon puts on your body as a costume to use for its own purposes

Still stronger than humans.

MaskedOne
23 Feb 2019, 08:05
Still stronger than humans.

Whether the demon is stonger than a human is inconsequential to the point that if a Buffy-verse vamp turns you then you are dead. Not walking dead, not undead, not cursed, just dead. The thing using your body as a costume while it murders everyone you knew is not you. It could be on par with Silver Age Superman and able to sneeze planets out of orbit but that doesn't benefit you because again, you're dead.