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Hawkfeathers
26 Jul 2019, 06:25
Apparently, there's a petition going around the USA to change the date so it will always fall on a Saturday. https://www.change.org/p/change-halloween

kalynraye
26 Jul 2019, 07:00
Hello no! Just no leave it alone. It's not a kids holiday.

Hawkfeathers
26 Jul 2019, 07:24
Exactly. I don't see them wanting to move Christmas, which has become far more commercial. This is religious discrimination, IMO. But - I found this elsewhere, so the whole thing isn't likely to move forward. It really irks me that it'd even be a thing, though. Another thing to be wary of.

"It seems that tens of thousands of people agree. But they might be disappointed to know that, even if president Trump gets their petition, there’s not much he can do, since Halloween is not a federal holiday. Changing the date would require Trump to ask Congress to make it a government-regulated holiday first, which, considering that only six federal holidays (pdf) have been created since 1888, is unlikely to happen anytime soon."

monsno_leedra
26 Jul 2019, 08:02
Hello no! Just no leave it alone. It's not a kids holiday.

This gets me. Halloween is a kids holiday. All Hallows Eve (31 Oct) / All Saints day (1 Nov) / All Souls Day (2 Nov) are Christian inspired. Samhain could be said to be a Pagan Holiday based upon a Celtic inspired fire festival that is both adult and child oriented.

So which do you practice and observe? Call me curious, Wicca and Wicca inspired observe Samhain not Halloween in my experience.

Of course that doesn't even touch upon the fact many places used to observe Halloween as a series of nights. Depending upon time it could be as many as 7 nights including penny night for instance, fruit night, candy night, spook night though most places today limit it to a singular night. I was born in 1959 and recall times where it was at least 3 nights, my mother remembers times where it was 5 nights. Her favorites being penny night where she got pennies at each house, fruit night where they handed out apples or other fruits, nights where they got baked goods and of course regular candy night. I recall penny night, candy night and one that was simply scares and tricks with no treats on that night.

For reference I lived in Maryland and the District of Columbia (D.C.) during those times my mother lived in Ohio during the times she remembers. That still doesn't count the difference between children's parties and adult parties.

Today its not uncommon to change the night that kids actually hold their trick or treating. Might be due to weather, might be due to the night the 31st actually falls on, might be due to how people schedule it so kids can participate with the smaller communities so they don't compete against each other in the more rural areas where I live. Heck where I live it's not uncommon to have what is called trunk or treat where families / business meet in parks or parking lots and have the kids gather there due to how spread out things are and for the safety of the kids and pass out treats that way.

But not a children's holiday, sorry it's very much a children's holiday. Samhain is the one that is not a children's holiday they just happen to share the same night and one inspired the other in wearing masks perhaps to hide from the dead and spirits of the night.

Rhythm
26 Jul 2019, 09:55
I can’t see why it would matter what day we decide to let Halloween fall on. As someone with alot of kids I would def enjoy it always falling on a weekend night. As for the underpinnings, and it’s nature as a kids holiday, meh. No holiday remains when or what it was, and I still enjoy it as an adult, even as a kids day for candy. It’s that one night a year where the things that go bump in the night are the hero’s, rather than the villains.

Juniper
26 Jul 2019, 10:29
Not everyone works a Monday-Friday shift. If we stay with the October 31st date, at least it's fair all around because we can't* change how many days there are in any month/year.

* since this is all constructed by man to make sense of the passing of time, this obviously isn't an absolute, but it would be quite the feat for this to change considering all of man kind more or less abides by what we currently have in place.

Personally, I'm apathetic about the whole thing. I don't celebrate holidays of any kind. I celebrate birthdays and anniversaries and those are pretty customizeable in how and when they are celebrated.

Rick
26 Jul 2019, 10:36
It seems there's some confusion between All Hallow's Eve and Trick or Treat. Most communities designate which night Trick or Treat is held. That in no way affects Halloween or Samhain or Winter's Night.

Hawkfeathers
26 Jul 2019, 10:47
What bothers me is that it's ONLY recognized as Trick or Treat for children. There's absolutely no respect for the actual thing. They don't even know.

Maybe it's better that way, for now. I don't know.

anunitu
26 Jul 2019, 11:14
i myself am only into it for the candy yeh candy

Rhythm
26 Jul 2019, 11:15
The second most common form of recognition, in the states anyway, is as a demonic observance. Probably don’t want too many people with that opinion weighing in on when (and eventually if) it should be observed.

Bartmanhomer
26 Jul 2019, 14:58
Leave Halloween alone. :mad:

anubisa
27 Jul 2019, 04:06
It's always fallen on October 31st, leave it that way.

Medusa
31 Jul 2019, 19:43
Imagine all the demons coming out on Oct 31 and it's just crickets in the wind. All alone. And they have no idea what's up. Now they have to re-arrange their schedule and get a calendar to figure out when they come out at night. Leave the demons be.

anunitu
01 Aug 2019, 03:08
just say no to that change,i am only in it for the candy anyway except now the diabetes gets in the way

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yeh Duce i most likely caught the dbs from you lady

Bartmanhomer
01 Aug 2019, 05:22
Imagine all the demons coming out on Oct 31 and it's just crickets in the wind. All alone. And they have no idea what's up. Now they have to re-arrange their schedule and get a calendar to figure out when they come out at night. Leave the demons be.

Hey Medusa. Long time no see. How are you doing? :D

Dunkeld
11 Oct 2019, 15:07
Halloween is getting nearer now. I still think it should stay on the last day of October.