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B. de Corbin
06 Feb 2012, 05:08
I tried to quit smoking a few times, but the bottom line is this - I don't want to quit.

I like smoking.
I like the taste.
I like the experience.
I like the feeling.
I like having something to do with my hands when I talk to people.

I do not like:
cancer
emphysema
burned out tastebuds or smell whatevers
dry nose
flem in the morning
the stink
the mess
the cost
being treated like a leper with STD's because I like doing something that other people do not approve of


Fortunately, a friend of mine was able to suggest a solution...

ecigs!

I love these. I don't think I've discovered anything I like this much since puberty (OK - slight exageration. But still fun).

The way they work, in case you are dreadfully last century, is this: My ecigs (Mistic, from Walmart $14 for a set) look like cigarettes. The "tube" which would normally hold the tobacco, is a rechargable battery. It screws into a little tube that looks like the filter, but which is actually a little device that holds ejuice (a mixture of nicotine, water, flavoring, and an oil).

When I draw on the "filter" the battery starts, produces heat which vaporizes the ejuice - it doesn't burn - the liquid becomes a vapor - and I draw it into my mouth and lungs. Tastes great like a cigarette should!

The carridges are replaced as needed (the package estimates that 1 cart. = 1 pack). When the carts are empty, they can be refilled with all kinds of flavored ejuice, which range from various tobacco flavors to girly drink flavors (I got one called "G Spot" that I'm dieing to try out...). You can even get ejuice without any nicotine, if you just want to enjoy - and I do mean enjoy, because the flavor really is much more enjoyable.

And - no second hand smoke (it's water vapor), no clingy smell, nothing for people to rag on me about if I feel like Vaping in the car...

And no burning means that 99% of the bad stuff is gone. This is the way all vices should work in the 21st century... I'm glad I've lived to do it - it feels so Star Trek - y.

thalassa
06 Feb 2012, 06:03
I'll have to tell the hubby...he's trying to quit and has thought about using ecigs, but they are normally pretty pricey. He's tried to quit cold turkey, and it never works...he tried Chantix and was one of the people that has a really bad reaction to the meds. Since he's been back to working for the Navy, he is in an environment where at least 3/4 of the people smoke, and smoke breaks are pretty much the only recognized reason for a break. Plus the friend he's staying with right now (while the kids and I are in IL and he's looking for an apartment) smokes in his apartment... So its a bad time to quit, but he *says* he's down to ~4 cigs a day (which I'm pretty sure is his goal, but I'm also pretty sure he's fudging the numbers a bit. As long as he's down from the pack to pack and a half he was smoking before though, its at least an improvement. I think once he consistently gets down to his 4 cigarettes and he's not staying in a place where everyone smokes (since its pretty hard being a non-smoker in a place where a smoker lives and smokes inside) he's going to try Zyban. For him, he actually wants to quit--the kids (Sophie in particular) has picked up the "smoking is bad for your heath" thing and started in on him...nothing worse than your pre-schooler nagging you about bad habits.

B. de Corbin
06 Feb 2012, 06:47
For him, he actually wants to quit--the kids (Sophie in particular) has picked up the "smoking is bad for your heath" thing and started in on him...nothing worse than your pre-schooler nagging you about bad habits.

They stop doing that when they develop their own bad habits...

Seriously Thalassa, you really should have him give it a go. I was really confused by tha variety of ecigs out there, and the costs of some units (running from $40 up to a couple of hundred), but Walmart now sells a single battery and cart for $6, so he could try them out cheaply, then later buy a second battery and charger ($15) if he likes it. I gotta believe that the nicotine (ingested as vapor) is far less harmfully that Chantix, which has actually caused deaths.

The experience isn't EXACTLY like smoking, so it takes a bit of getting used to, but once I did get used to it, I found that I like it better. I've taken a few pulls off my pipe since I started last week, and the ecig tastes better - I'm off the burning devil's weed completely now, and enjoying the devil's battery...

Wifey still isn't too sure about it all, but she doesn't do change well. Let's see how it goes when the flavors come in the mail.

perzephone
06 Feb 2012, 08:13
It's tempting me to start smoking, lol. Or vaporizing. I'm thinking I might get some for my other half - he quits & then picks the habit back up, and quits, and craves and whines about not smoking.

B. de Corbin
06 Feb 2012, 08:34
It's tempting me to start smoking, lol. Or vaporizing.


The cool people say "Vaping."

You don't actually want to become a nicotine addict (although it's about as harmful as caffeine, from what I've read, unless you eat it). But Walmart (and other disocunt stores that carry Mistics) sell 0 nicotine cartridges, and you can get all the flavors without nicotine if you want to, so you and S.O. can vape your hearts out together in utterly decadent disregard for any health issues...

But you still might get whining. See note regarding wifey in the previous post.

perzephone
06 Feb 2012, 09:28
The cool people say "Vaping."

You don't actually want to become a nicotine addict (although it's about as harmful as caffeine, from what I've read, unless you eat it).

Eh, I'm already a nicotine addict - working in an older, not-so-well-ventilated casino will do that to you. I get really cranky on my vacations because I get separated from the second-hand smoke. Maybe I'll get some of the nicotine cartridges when I take my next vacation.

Madness
06 Feb 2012, 10:01
My husband starting using ecigs when I was pregnant. He only smoked when he went out to bars but he figured he may as well even give that up. Thing is...now he vapes all the time! So it can be addicting for sure! And I'm apparently the only person in the world that can smell the "second hand vape". It's not offensive, but if he tries to hide a drag from me, I can catch the whiff and call him out.

They are far superior to "analog cigarettes" but they have made hubby smoke/vape MORE!

DanieMarie
06 Feb 2012, 12:39
I totally love these, and everyone who uses them. I'm allergic to smoking and we don't really have a clear or enforced ban here, so there's a lot of smoking indoors and I really struggle when I go out with friends. But I went to a friends house and her friend had these and since there was no second hand smoke, it was totally fine. She got to smoke and I got to breath...everyone wins.

I'm considering gifting some to all my smoker friends.

Medusa
06 Feb 2012, 12:45
They have e-joints as well. They are quite popular on a podcast I listen to daily.

anunitu
06 Feb 2012, 14:59
I use Vaping from time to time,haven't completly stopped smoking real smokes yet,but the E-cigs are good,I have one that is powered from a USB port,so no worrys about the battery,and great for my time at the computer.

Jembru
06 Feb 2012, 17:19
Just wanted to share something. I tried many times to quit but just never managed to fight the desire to smoke. Last August, I finally kicked the habit and I don't even crave now. I am being honest here. I tried to smoke at my sister's on Christmas day and had to give the cig to her after two puffs. It was vile. I'd tried NRT in the past and it wasn't a huge help. What worked this time is a little embarrassing. It was a hypnosis recording I found on Youtube! I know this isn't quite on topic, but I could dig out the recording if anyome else is interested in giving it a go.

B. de Corbin
07 Feb 2012, 06:48
My husband starting using ecigs when I was pregnant. He only smoked when he went out to bars but he figured he may as well even give that up. Thing is...now he vapes all the time! So it can be addicting for sure! And I'm apparently the only person in the world that can smell the "second hand vape". It's not offensive, but if he tries to hide a drag from me, I can catch the whiff and call him out.

They are far superior to "analog cigarettes" but they have made hubby smoke/vape MORE!

I've noticed this too. The thing is, though, that once you get past the thinking that says "smoking is bad for you" (since vaping is very very different from smoking - no burning), then, it's really no different from having a cup of coffee or bottle of coke with you when you are working or relaxing.

Does The Monarch refill his carts? Last night my flavored eJuice came, and it's really nice...

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She got to smoke and I got to breath...everyone wins.

I'm considering gifting some to all my smoker friends.

It really is a win/win. Not only does your friend get to smoke while you breath, she also eliminates more than 90% of the bad stuff. If you got a bunch of friends together, and gave them the ecigs, and had some of the flavored eJuices to try out, it could be a little party (get the zero nicotine for yourself!). They'd have fun, and thank you for it.

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They have e-joints as well. They are quite popular on a podcast I listen to daily.

LOL - I've heard rumors of such things coming from foreign parts.

We just got a flyer at work today warning us to be on the lookout for the synthetics that are floating around. It's the return of reefer madness. You will go insane, and end up dead, if you touch one of these little bags...

LadyGarnetRose
07 Feb 2012, 07:18
YAY!

My favorite flavors are watermelon and apple. The "tobacco" flavor just makes me want to smoke. And I CANNOT smoke, but vaping is fine according to my doctor.

I'm at the point I'm really only vaping at the computer and if on a long trip. Too many years of having a cig in my mouth and blazing through two packs while working.

Madness
08 Feb 2012, 11:58
Does The Monarch refill his carts? Last night my flavored eJuice came, and it's really nice...

He's tried both the refillable and the one-off ones. He certainly likes the refills better just because of less money, waste, having to go to the store (which is a whole half mile from us that sells like 50 flavors), etc. I do complain about some of the flavors though. The WORST was the blueberry. It was a one-off he got on a recent trip to New Orleans. Kinda cute - had a blue lighted tip instead of red. But it STANK. And of course, he wanted to vape in the car on the way home to Austin. The other people in the car couldn't smell it!

B. de Corbin
08 Feb 2012, 14:24
LOL - weirdly, of the flavors I got, the one called "G Spot" (which I was laughing at) is my favorite. It tastes kind of like Bazooka bubble gum - you can even taste the powder they out on it - but on second tasting, there are some more subtle flavors in there with it. Normally, I wouldn't go for a bubble gum flavor, so this one was doubly surprising.

I'd probably have to drive to Cheboygan find flavors locally...

anunitu
08 Feb 2012, 21:19
I also use the "Juice",and find it cheaper that buying Cartridges. I haven't tried the flavored ones,but I may try them just to see what they are like. They have chocolate and Coffee flavor,those might appeal to me.

B. de Corbin
09 Feb 2012, 05:05
I'm using one today that is "honey cured tobacco." it's really quite nice.

The flavors that I tend to like are kind of subtle - you taste them in the upper back of your throat when you exhale, so they tend to be nice, but not overwhelming like kid's candy. The flavors I got from Pink Spot are the subtle kind.

The tobacco flavored ones really bring out the good flavor of the tobacco, and leave the nasty burned taste you get after the first draw behind.

Just_Wondering
15 Feb 2012, 10:03
I just started using a pv. I have the joye ego mega and it's the best purchase I've ever made.

Mine came with two atomizers, two batteries, a dual charger and five prefilled carts for about 65 bucks. I've found that when it comes to vaporizers, you really get what you pay for.

I first wanted to get one that looked and tasted exactly like real cigarettes but I found they're more trouble than they're worth. My mega is a tank, but that means less refilling and more battery life. It's also a manual so I have to hold a button down when I vape but that has its benefits too.

What's funny is that tobacco flavored stuff is nasty to me now and I much prefer a mint or apple flavor. And the bst part (aside from not even wanting to pick up an analog) is that I can vape wherever I want. I sit in my office at work and puff away for 8 hours and nobody's the wiser.

E-cigarettes are awesome. Not short of breath anymore, not getting headaches, my eye doesn't twitch anymore, an I don't wake up all phlegmy with ashtray mouth. Plus I smell good now. :)

thalassa
15 Feb 2012, 10:35
Somehow, I just knew someone had figured out a DIY (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/)...

*because I was thinking to myself "self, I wonder how you could make that herbal?"*

B. de Corbin
15 Feb 2012, 11:12
Somewhere (and I can't find it again) I saw something about boiling herbal teas down to use ejuice.

Oh - but here's this off the same forum, Thalassa -

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/250782-vaping-tea.html

Just_Wondering
22 Feb 2012, 22:28
Has anybody ever heard of using little ceramic pieces next to the atty? Apparently it's supposed to heat up quicker and keep the heat up longer, plus more vapor, but it seems shifty. I picture a battery bursting into flames with a loud pop, but a seasoned vaper mentioned it so i wondered.

B. de Corbin
23 Feb 2012, 05:16
Just_Wondering, I'm not sure. I know there are different systems, but I'm still using the simple "fake cigarette" model. I ought to look into the other designs because I'd like something that doesn't require quite as hard a draw.

Maybe that's one of the "drip" designs.

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P.s. I Just saw your signature line. I'm on an iPad, and I feel your pain...

anunitu
23 Feb 2012, 05:18
One I saw mentioned had a "tank" for the "Juice",not sure of how it actually works. Now with the inhaleable caffeine thing we could combine our morning Coffee and smoke into one jolt:=o:

B. de Corbin
23 Feb 2012, 07:21
LOL - yeah...

But I still like to slurp the magic black ambrosia of the Gods.

anunitu
23 Feb 2012, 07:29
Being a coffee junky I have to agree with you on that Corbin.

Just_Wondering
23 Feb 2012, 15:26
Just_Wondering, I'm not sure. I know there are different systems, but I'm still using the simple "fake cigarette" model. I ought to look into the other designs because I'd like something that doesn't require quite as hard a draw.

Maybe that's one of the "drip" designs.

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P.s. I Just saw your signature line. I'm on an iPad, and I feel your pain...
It's a rough life for us, yo.

If you pick up another model, joye is the most popular brand. Though my ego t is wonderful, it does require long, slow draws. I think that is the nature of an ecig.

B. de Corbin
24 Feb 2012, 04:20
It's a rough life for us, yo.

If you pick up another model, joye is the most popular brand. Though my ego t is wonderful, it does require long, slow draws. I think that is the nature of an ecig.

I've heard a lot of good things about the Joye. I'll look into that one for sure when I move up.

On another note, I just got the Johnson Creek "Red Oak" ejuice sample pack, and I just want to say that it's amazing. The candy flavors I tried previously from Pink Spot are nice, and fun, but these flavors are real "adult" type flavors, and very, very good!

LadyGarnetRose
24 Feb 2012, 23:53
I have the fruit flavors from Chi-Town Vapers, I have GOT to get the Pear and Watermelon in a larger bottle.

On a funny note, I was vaping in the kitchen and my husband says, "Honey I think I'm having a stroke, why do I smell strawberries?!?!?"

I respond, "Because I'm vaping strawberry ejuice."

"You're doing what?"

anunitu
24 Feb 2012, 23:56
Ain't it fun:cool:

Just_Wondering
16 Mar 2012, 12:01
Update: i found a website selling pot roast and chicken vegetarian suitable e-juice.

However disgusting it seems, i feel compelled to try it. Sort of like when Pringles came out with a pickle-flavored chip.

B. de Corbin
16 Mar 2012, 12:25
LMAO!!!

I can't see it for regular use, but...

... It's just crazy enough to work...

I have seen bacon.

Just_Wondering
16 Mar 2012, 23:00
I just feel like inhaling chemical-tasting meat flavors would be horrible!

If you get bacon, i will get the roast.

B. de Corbin
18 Mar 2012, 06:32
OK, you're on.

Always remember that life is a never ending string of odd, unrelated events that make no sense. Smoking a turkey eCig is no more weird than spam on a cracker...


:D

anunitu
18 Mar 2012, 06:36
Ummmmmmmmmm. Spam spam spam spam,spam spam spam..In an E-cig....(thank you monty python)