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[anunitu]

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I would say in my opinion we are truthfully all ready ruled by corporate interests anyway. The whole election and Government are in the pocket of the 1% and have been for a long time.

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Though we might think we are headed toward a "1984" future,in reality we are already there,we just never noticed,like the frog in the pan of slowly boiling water...our goose is already cooked..

[ThePaganMafia]

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I am voting third party for Jill Stein as I only registered Democrat to vote for Bernie. Hillary Clinton is a horrible politician, a horrible leader, a U.S. imperialist, and a war hawk. She is a disaster for this country. I would prefer a Trump presidency as it will embolden the far Left. Hillary Clinton only placates the Liberals and pushes this country further Right.

[Denarius]

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most have been over turned by wall streets need to not be regulated,the one thing that allowed the Depression to come about.

Which is exactly why we need to get rid of money in politics. Corporations and special interest groups shouldn't have unfettered influence over how our country is run.

[anunitu]

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Also a lot of laws were put in place after the depression to keep it from happening again,but most have been over turned by wall streets need to not be regulated,the one thing that allowed the Depression to come about.

[Hawkfeathers]

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The "no monopoly" thing didn't work out too well. Sure, now there are a bunch of phone companies and tv/internet providers, health insurance plans, electric/gas companies, etc. But we have no choice who to get some of these things from. It's all little local monopolies now - same effect.

Ms. Clinton just gave a rockin' speech! Very well-written and executed.

[anunitu]

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I am thinking that those who kind of follow the conservative band wagon think we should go back to full blown Capitalism all caps,the kind that threw old ladies out in the snow,and were based on the idea if you could get away with it,and make lots of MONEY,no moral connection would ever cross your mind. There was a reason they passed laws against Morally bankrupt movers and shakers,and set a rule,NO Monopoly,or corruption by the moneyed class of the Government using vast wealth to get their way in controlling laws and judges and everything else they could.

[ThePaganMafia]

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Bernie is not radical enough. He still bases his policies on capitalist systems. His only real quality is that he has been able to unite the working class and bring the word socialism into the mainstream despite everyone being entirely ignorant of what Socialism actually is.

[Denarius]

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In talking to many a deal of people who are voting for trump, the resounding reasoning was that they wanted a revolution. ... So I asked them what they meant by revolution, and what they explained accurately defined a coup.

The people I've talked to mostly described it in anti-establishment terms. The word "cuckservative" was oft thrown around. The upheaval was of the GOP, not the government. Described more as shaking up the status quo, letting the American people's voices be heard louder than transnational interest groups.

Trump doesn't have to do anything, just by entering office he'd prove our point. That special interest groups, party insiders, the media, and the GOP old guard don't decide elections. The people do.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/01/milo_yiannopoulos_trump_represents_the_best_hope_we_have_to_smash_political_correctness.html

I would respectfully ask them if they liked the ideologies of Bernie Sanders, and the majority agreed they did, but that he wouldn't be able to change anything; congress would shoot him down left and right.

I despise Bernie's ideologies. Social justice, socialism. I see those things as dangerous, cancerous even. I respect that he's not owned by corporations and special interest groups, that he's shaking things up in his own way. In a slightly different election, no Hillary to oppose or Trump to support, I'd probably vote for him. I've said as much before.

Those ideologies are everywhere as is, I don't see a term of Bernie being that bad on that front. He's not too radical on either, and even if he was that'd just show the people what I'm talking about. So I see him as relatively harmless, and decidedly anti-establishment.

If Trump was to dismantle the government, it would give the people a chance to rise up and take back the country.

That's the thing though... Trump's platform is Populist and Nationalist, not Anarchist. He doesn't talk about tearing down, he talks about building up. Not about dividing, but uniting.

[Hawkfeathers]

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In the seventies "everyone" was saying "come the revolution" a lot,and the Weathermen blew stuff up,the SLA robbed banks with Patty Hurst,and the SDS screamed about stuff,and might have burned some things,BUT they all ended up dead or in jail...and then everyone became self revolutionary and became yuppies.

They did the whole "revolution" thing down on South America,and it never seemed to work as planned...Venezuela anyone????

Just saying,revolution seems not to be the real solution....I am again it...

There was a girl at my college who looked like Patty Hearst. She would go up to strangers at the mall and say 'Help me, I'm Patty Hearst." OMG I'd forgotten all about that! Good times!!

[anunitu]

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In the seventies "everyone" was saying "come the revolution" a lot,and the Weathermen blew stuff up,the SLA robbed banks with Patty Hurst,and the SDS screamed about stuff,and might have burned some things,BUT they all ended up dead or in jail...and then everyone became self revolutionary and became yuppies.

They did the whole "revolution" thing down on South America,and it never seemed to work as planned...Venezuela anyone????

Just saying,revolution seems not to be the real solution....I am again it...

[B. de Corbin]

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I would prefer a bloodless revolution, achieved through the use of the political machinery that is already in place, should people chose to use it. Until they do, a bloody revolution will just bring death, suffering, and the same old same old.

The fantasy that another civil war would be good for this country is adolescent and ignorant of history, and better discouraged than encouraged.

"The people" will never end up leading anything via revolution - "the people" is code for a powerful dictator who claims to be doing the best for actual people. It's always "the people's army," or "the people's revolution," or "the people's this and that." Better to call it what it is - "The People's Abuse," based on "The People's Willingness to Act Out of Ignorance of History."

[Norse_Angel]

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In talking to many a deal of people who are voting for trump, the resounding reasoning was that they wanted a revolution. I would respectfully ask them if they liked the ideologies of Bernie Sanders, and the majority agreed they did, but that he wouldn't be able to change anything; congress would shoot him down left and right. So I asked them what they meant by revolution, and what they explained accurately defined a coup.

If Trump was to dismantle the government, it would give the people a chance to rise up and take back the country. I feel this election may bring on a civil war of the people vs government. When Trump attempts to do something outrageous, the people will respond. If he was to make the wrong move militarily, the whole US Armed Forces could tell him no, thus losing his power as commander and chief. There would be major protests by all those who supported other candidates from both parties. We could see large riots ensue in major cities.

I am waiting to see how it all plays out, but I love the idea of a New America led by the people.

[B. de Corbin]

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People are getting pretty creative with these things!

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OH MY GOB! That is so disgustingly hilarious!

(I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but What the hell! I'll prolly be deported soon anyway...)

My contribution:

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[Hawkfeathers]

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People are getting pretty creative with these things!

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[anunitu]

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Yes...wringing hands...Yes that might be possible..