ONLY AUTHORIZED ELECTION NEWS THREAD--no debating allowed

[B. de Corbin]

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...Because some people, such as myself, believe that multiculturalism and globalism are new phenomena and do not represent traditional American values. That America is a melting pot, not a salad bowl.

That would lead to a very obvious question - what traditional American values?

Those of Detroit? Those of New York? Those of New Orleans? Those of China Town? Austin? San Francisco?

And when? 1776? 1863? 1900? 1968? 2015?

The phrase "traditional American values," when used as if to describe a thing in and of itself, represents a faulty understanding of the huge variety... and dynamic (constantly changing) nature... of American values.

[anunitu]

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Thing is it is VERY hard to "Prove" Ideologys

[Denarius]

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I was just answering your question, dude.

[anunitu]

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I myself would not want to wade in on the subject,because I believe it would just end up being he said/he said...with no resolution,just arguments.

[Denarius]

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Isolationism is one of the extremes of the position, yes. Nationalism is the idea that the interests of the nation and its citizens take precedence over the concerns of foreign nations and their citizens. America first.

It also gets into national identity, which is usually defined either ethnically or culturally. In Trump's, and most American Nationalists', case that would be culturally.

Because some people, such as myself, believe that multiculturalism and globalism are new phenomena and do not represent traditional American values. That America is a melting pot, not a salad bowl.

[anunitu]

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Nationalist,would that be like isolationist or even in the vain of War monger kinda country...interesting term,and yes it might fit. Must ponder this.

[Denarius]

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I would have used the term Nationalist, myself, but that's a dirty word to some.

[B. de Corbin]

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I am truly amazed at times how the general public can be spin doctored to the max...At the moment Trump said he would debate Sanders if the stations would give a certain amount to a women health charity,and I imagine he believes this would erase all the negative words and actions that came before concerning women.

Tell people what they want to hear and they are sure to believe it, even if it is completely insane.

[anunitu]

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I am truly amazed at times how the general public can be spin doctored to the max...At the moment Trump said he would debate Sanders if the stations would give a certain amount to a women health charity,and I imagine he believes this would erase all the negative words and actions that came before concerning women.

[B. de Corbin]

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In class we are reading and analyzing Op-Ed articles. I try to find things which students have some interest in, and so I was working with two Op-Ed articles about Donald Trump -one for him, the other against him. I express no opinions - just look at how the writing works.

In analyzing one of them, I had to ask "Why do those who dislike Trump dislike him?"

The response I got from one student was pretty illuminating. He said "They don't like him because he is patriotic."

For those of you who don't like Trump - such as (full disclosure) myself - you are certainly aware that this has nothing to do with the reasons why Trump is reviled - in fact, it would be more correct to say that those who don't like Trump revile him because Trump is anti-American values.

But it is true that Trump has led many to believe that HE is the patriot, and it's "those others" who are anti-American values.

Here's a very good article explaining the solid reasoning behind the reasons why many people hate the man:

Fight Between Faith and Reason: Trump and the Consequences of Ignorance


From the article:

[anunitu]

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This I really do not understand.

Hillary Clinton Wasn’t Adept at Using a Desktop for Email, Inquiry Is Told

How is it harder to use a desktop to read email,than a Blackberry?

[Hawkfeathers]

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I hear he has enough delegates now to definitely be the nominee? Angels and ministers of grace defend us.....

[B. de Corbin]

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Would love to see this:



Hopefully, Trump won't control the money so we'll see if it actually goes where it is said to go.

[anunitu]

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I am sorry Mask,truly I am. I know the reason it came to your attention so swiftly...That is in itself another matter concerning friendship. You did your job,and would have done it without any extra input.
My personal feelings are not a subject I wish to go into. Last line of my Sig explains everything.

[MaskedOne]

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I just do not want to see this thread chopped again,I happen to like it.
If I am wrong,then so be it. Sorry if I offended anyone,not meant to I assure you.

There's no real crime in pointing out that staff are watching (we are) or in asking people not to conduct debates that will incur wrath of mod/admin. Just don't give explicit orders and generally avoid publicly predicting what we're going to do (there's a bit more leeway here depending on how accurate your predictions are and how you phrase them). Giving out marching orders is an open invitation to a fight that will eventually summon me and public predictions leave you looking silly if a responding mod disagrees with you.

NOTE TO EVERYONE ELSE:

Thal does have pretty stringent requirements for this thread's survival. Caution is always warranted. I'm not currently planning thread death here but if another staff member disagrees then I'm not planning to argue the point all that much.