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    #76
    Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

    Originally posted by thalassa View Post
    Absolutely.

    BUT.

    It requires changes in infrastructure--physical, organizational, and ideological, of both the corporate environment and society itself.

    For starters:

    1. The bottom line has to be sustainability before stock prices
    2. Companies have to invest in changing their efficiency standards and their energy sources
    3. Companies have to be held fiscally responsible for their own actions and the prior actions of companies they buy out
    4. Consumers have to invest time and energy into verifying business practices (or create platforms that can do this for them)
    Agreed, this was what I was getting at.

    And I can't see it happening. Certainly not outside of the odd maverick business.
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      #77
      Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

      Where I live, we are still coming to terms with horrific scarring of the landscape while trying to prevent yet more pollution. We have for example, an extremely toxic waste dump not far away, which the Council place on top of one of the very few stone circles in the UK. So not only did it allow toxic waste to be dumped there, but it lost forever a place of great historical and archaeological importance. And then there are the local allotments, placed on the mountainside just below the largest cemetery in the valley. Can you imagine what is getting into the soil - and probably the produce - there? Hence my reluctance to accept vegetables grown there. Course the veg I'm eating might be just as contaminated from another source... it would be really lovely if these companies and individuals, who made a fortune from wrecking the land, we forced, at their own expense to put it right.
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        #78
        Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

        That reminds me of "Love canal" here in the US.

        Story here.

        From Site.
        Quite simply, Love Canal is one of the most appalling environmental tragedies in American history.

        Site is for the EPA..

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        Found,and it echos something I said..

        See Here.

        From site.
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          #79
          Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

          This is kind of disturbing.


          The site.
          MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

          all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
          NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
          don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




          sigpic

          my new page here,let me know what you think.


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            #80
            Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

            353 pages of what will happen if we continue to do nothing with business-as-usual
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              #81
              Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

              As Detroit was mentioned in this thread, I would like to point out a building in Detroit that would make a very good preservation. Detroit Central Station. Here are some Pictures. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...7F&FORM=IQFRBA

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                #82
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                  #83
                  Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

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                    #84
                    Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

                    So apparently, every once in a great while, humanity can pay enough attention to scientists raising alarms to get off its *** and do something useful.

                    https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-the-ozone-hole-is-on-track-to-be-healed-by-mid-century?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us


                    We still have several dozen other areas where we're screwing up globally but I'll take a win when I can get one.
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                      #85
                      Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

                      Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
                      So apparently, every once in a great while, humanity can pay enough attention to scientists raising alarms to get off its *** and do something useful.

                      https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-the-ozone-hole-is-on-track-to-be-healed-by-mid-century?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us


                      We still have several dozen other areas where we're screwing up globally but I'll take a win when I can get one.
                      Only when it presents an imminent danger to the interests of those in power. The ozone layer hole could have spelled doom for many powerful corporations and industry lobbies.

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                        #86
                        Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

                        Originally posted by Sean R. R. View Post
                        Only when it presents an imminent danger to the interests of those in power. The ozone layer hole could have spelled doom for many powerful corporations and industry lobbies.
                        That's an absolutely wonderful example, IMO. First... because, as I think we can all agree, it was a real thing which really showed that real human action could make a difference.

                        There really was a hole, "we" saw that, and "we" fixed it. "We" continue to have many other problems, but we nailed that one. It's a proof of concept for more ambitious proposals.
                        Last edited by Rhythm; 30 Nov 2023, 22:35.

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