Innovation vs infrastructure

[anunitu]

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The Crash course guys also cover many other subjects as well.
Their home with links to all their video courses.

I find them very interesting as a learning tool and also entertaining.

They be here.

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All free BTW,and a donate thing if you feel like that.

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They do politics as well,explaining how our Government works.

[DanieMarie]

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Like many other countries, Germany is big on the bottom line. Although I think it still has a more long-term approach and although the social infrastructure is definitely strong here, physical infrastructure is failing because the government has trouble seeing the cost vs. value in these transactions. Luckily, it IS a big point of conversation here at the moment, although no one can seem to agree on how to fix it.

[B. de Corbin]

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I was actually expecting Germany to be better.

I guess it's just not sexy anywhere. Here in Michigan we have a lot of freeze/thaw cycles each year. When the ice goes, there's more pothole than road. And we are having one hell of a time paying for road repair.

I'm also at the point where I'm afraid to use one of Michigan's technological wonders - the Mackinac Bridge.

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(Although I think upkeep on the bridge is actually pretty good. The bridge brings in a lot of money, both through useage fees and tourism)

P.S. The sex ed video was, regretably, dead on for the US.

[DanieMarie]

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LOL - yeah. How's the infrastructure in Germany?

Haha that's probably the thing, though. Maybe this particular video wasn't a great example, because Germany is going through a lot of the same problems. Where I live, it's GREAT, because the government pumped a lot of money into updating the infrastructure in the former East (I live in former East Berlin). We have awesome highways, bridges and train tracks, and in central East Berlin, we have far better bike infrastructure than in the central parts of the former West. BUT, they haven't made similar investments in the former West. The highways are older, the bridges are in trouble, the trains are a NIGHTMARE (especially in North Rhine Westfalia...worst state for train travel ever), and the roads and bike lanes are in worse shape in central West Berlin.

I guess I should have picked a better example of something that totally doesn't affect me, but John Oliver still got me watching. Maybe the one he did on sex ed (though I can honestly say I have NO idea how sex ed looks in Germany. In Canada, where I grew up, it's reasonable). But this was the video at hand, so...

[Hawkfeathers]

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What I dislike most about news formats today is having to waste time separating the completely false from the semblance of truth. I prefer a clear, point-by-point summary of the events of the day, a la old school newspapers/tv news.

[anunitu]

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He does bring things into focus..

[B. de Corbin]

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John Oliver has a really good way of making me interested in issues that I'm not really otherwise interested in. Technically, it doesn't really matter to me that infrastructure is crumbling in the US. But it was still interesting to watch.

LOL - yeah. How's the infrastructure in Germany?

[DanieMarie]

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John Oliver has a really good way of making me interested in issues that I'm not really otherwise interested in. Technically, it doesn't really matter to me that infrastructure is crumbling in the US. But it was still interesting to watch.

[B. de Corbin]

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Denarius is reasonably conversant with the idea of linking support for his statements. The reliability of that support may be open to debate (or not, don't know or currently care) but that problem isn't fixed simply by switching media to books. I can find some disturbing books.

I regret being nasty, and apologize to you, Denarius.

My problem - I have a big problem with anti-intellectualism, and that is what your statement looked like to me.

Again, my fault, and I am sorry.

Let's get back to comedy...

[anunitu]

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There is the blinders thing when confronted with to much input(watched "the brain" on National Geographic channel) very interesting stuff about the brain,and why we act the way we do..also some on youtube on the brain to watch.

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Interesting youtube stuff on the brain(Crash course series)

Interesting watch...
One video here.

[DanieMarie]

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Having viewed(listened) news for a very long time,I have memory's of Walter Cronkite,and Walter Winchell on Radio and early TV. I do know a little of news style,and also because of the times back then,censorship about some topics. I think at times Millennial(not attacking you guys) want a kind of very easy and quick sound byte,or text byte because they are so busy being "Hip"(again not attacking)..it is a generational thing. In some ways we are shaped by our technology,and our media is not always doing it for the pure desire to inform,but to manipulate,and get the ratings.

Hmmmm not really. It has nothing to do with being hip or cool. I think it has more to do with all of the stuff that is constantly vying for our attention. I'm still old enough to remember the days before the Internet, and I do remember what it was like before. I have so much more trouble paying attention to things now. Between the Internet, traditional media, and even just going out on the street, there is so much out there competing for our attention. Personally, my response is often to either totally tune out or to go for whatever offers me the easiest access. I think most people in my generation go for the latter.

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Clickbait is more of a new media thing, news sites and blogs. The real problem with getting news from social media specifically is what DanieMarie was bringing up. Cliques and echo chambers, the tendency we have to seek out content and people who reaffirm our ideas rather than challenge them.

I don't think confirmation bias is specific to social media and digital media, though. Before the Internet, most readers had a preferred paper, and most viewers had a preferred news network, and so on.

[anunitu]

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And of course,click bait do that because they make money for every click. The internet is not always such a safe place..lots of hustlers and con artists roam the Interweb..

[DanieMarie]

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The problem from getting news from social media is that social media is primarily clickbait. I get most of my daily news from NPR. I also like Al Jazeera and BBC as far as cable news. I do read some stuff I see on social media but I take so much on the internet with a grain of salt.

[anunitu]

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Having viewed(listened) news for a very long time,I have memory's of Walter Cronkite,and Walter Winchell on Radio and early TV. I do know a little of news style,and also because of the times back then,censorship about some topics. I think at times Millennial(not attacking you guys) want a kind of very easy and quick sound byte,or text byte because they are so busy being "Hip"(again not attacking)..it is a generational thing. In some ways we are shaped by our technology,and our media is not always doing it for the pure desire to inform,but to manipulate,and get the ratings.

Even I,with the experience of having seen and heard news in a different perspective,am I believe as effected as many of our younger forum members,by today's media blitz.

[ThePaganMafia]

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Thanks for the lesson, dude.