Watchmen (contains SPOILERS)

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[mouser]

I honestly thought the changes they made to the end were a lot better than the original ending.  Of course, I wish they didn't have to gloss over so much, but I can only imagine how long the movie would have been if they kept everything.

[TempestBrewer]

I honestly thought the changes they made to the end were a lot better than the original ending.  Of course, I wish they didn't have to gloss over so much, but I can only imagine how long the movie would have been if they kept everything.

I don't. Cause it doesn't make sense

How would the earth unite against something that they previously thought was a God and are pretty sure is indestructible?

[Dumuzi]

There is so much in the story that could have been told, and normally I would hold it against the movie makers, but really the movie was very long as it is.

So in a way I believe this is as good as it could have gotten, without making a movie that is 5 hours long. That doesn't mean I liked everything about the movie though. There are things that I thought were rubbish, but I won't go into details so that I don't spoil the movie for anyone.

I did like it that the graphic novel served as a story board for the movie. A lot of scenes and dialogues in the movie were almost identical to lots of panels in the graphic novel. And that's a huge plus in my opinion.

[EalainCoill]

I don't. Cause it doesn't make sense

How would the earth unite against something that they previously thought was a God and are pretty sure is indestructible?

I had a similar problem with making John the thing to unite the world against.  Why would it make the world unite against him - he's an American.  They would hold America responsible for him and everyone would hate us and kill us.  So I think that was an all around bad idea on the part of the writers.  It's much easier to unite the world against imaginary aliens.

[TempestBrewer]

I had a similar problem with making John the thing to unite the world against.  Why would it make the world unite against him - he's an American.  They would hold America responsible for him and everyone would hate us and kill us.  So I think that was an all around bad idea on the part of the writers.  It's much easier to unite the world against imaginary aliens.

*nod* Yep.

But as it stands, the aliens wouldn't have made much sense, considering they couldn't fit the whole genetic modification thing into the plot. So it was an OK change, even though it makes less sense. I'm not angry at it.

[ThePaganMafia]

I was actually in the first audience it was released to. I saw it a week before it's release in theaters. They had a free showing of it on Fort Bliss. You weren't allowed to take cell phones in or anything cause they didn't want it leaked out.

Suffice it to say it was a WEIRD movie.

[Juniper Raven]

Don't lie. You liked Big Blue.
*nudge*nudge*wink*wink*

Just kidding. ^_^

[Dumuzi]

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[TempestBrewer]

^ LOL

It's so very true... and the sad thing is that to me, the big blue wang wasn't even a big deal cause I'd read the books and gotten over it already :-P

[mouser]

Well, the topic warns of spoilers, and I guess that goes for the comic too, so I’ll jump right into it.  The reason why I wasn’t particularly satisfied with the comic’s ending was that I just found it to hard to buy.  An alien being appears in New York, wipes out the city in its death throes, and Russia’s reaction is to assume that there is an imminant alien envasion and they should band together with America to prepare for it?  Okay, I can see that, but I can also see other possible reactions; to think that this was such a sure-fire response that the entirety of Ozy’s plans hinged on Russia reacting this way . . . he just seems more methodical than that to me.

Compare that to the movie, where multiple cities are hit, there is no question that the enemy is a threat to the entire world (not just one country), and the public knows that all they have to do to stop him is band together.   Think about it.  Let’s say the public didn’t band together in a show of force against the Doc.  Let’s say they had the same worshipful reaction that the North Vietnamese did.  What would that mean?  It would mean meeting his demands and banding together for world peace.  You want to band together against him: world peace.  You want to bow to his wishes: world peace.  In fact, the impression I got from the movie was that some people were pushing for peace because they wanted a show of force against him, and others were pushing for peace because they were afraid that he would attack again if he didn’t.

Given Ozy’s personality and goals, using Dr. Manhattan as a scapegoat just makes more sense.  Sure, a fight against Dr. Manhattan would be hopeless.  Then again, so would a fight against an entire race of superior, psychically powered, interstellar invaders.  But the alien plan depends on the public fighting back against an impossible foe.  The Dr. Manhattan plan does not.

As far as as Dr. Manhattan’s penis goes, I think part of the reason it was so distracting was that it . . . well it moved . . . like a lot.  How do you not stare when it is swaying?

[LadyGarnetRose]

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It's so very true... and the sad thing is that to me, the big blue wang wasn't even a big deal cause I'd read the books and gotten over it already :-P

Yeah but in the book it's static and the size of the tip of a pencil.

When ya see it on the IMAX screen it's the 8 foot glowing blue wavy dong

[TempestBrewer]

Yeah but in the book it's static and the size of the tip of a pencil.

When ya see it on the IMAX screen it's the 8 foot glowing blue wavy dong

*shrugs* I just acknowledged it and moved on with my life. It didn't cause any kind of distraction for me.

[EalainCoill]

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LOL - yeah, I think more of my conversations have been about "do the ends justify the means?" and utilitarianism.  Actually, I may have had equal amount of time spent on talking about how much I hate utilitarians, and the overplayed sex scenes.  One of my AIMS during that weekend, "Was all that thrusting really necessary?!?!"

[Fly the Light]

I didn't like how they changed the ending.  They should have had Manhattan crushed by Dr. Manhattan's giant blue dong, like in the graphic novel.

[TempestBrewer]

I didn't like how they changed the ending.  They should have had Manhattan crushed by Dr. Manhattan's giant blue dong, like in the graphic novel.

LOL, now that would have been quite an ending!

[picaboo]

Thank god because since my bf saw this movie every time it has come up he starts talking about the guy's "big blue dong" and I didn't know whether this was cause for concern.

[TempestBrewer]

Thank god because since my bf saw this movie every time it has come up he starts talking about the guy's "big blue dong" and I didn't know whether this was cause for concern.

Maybe he just really like big blue dongs

[Juniper Raven]

DONG

* Juniper Raven giggles and runs away

[ArCh@IcStraIN]

I just wanna add that this is probably why we won the Vietnam War.  Dr. Manhatten comes over the hill and the Vietcong are ready for battle.  And then, outta nowhere, Dr. Manhatten blows up to the size of an f'in stay puft marshmallow man and unleashes the beast literally flattening the vietcong forces.  Poor guys, I mean, what are you gonna do when the blue dong comes for you?

[TempestBrewer]

DONG

No no, that's all wrong. It's


WANG

[EalainCoill]

WANG

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!