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[TempestBrewer]

I was inquiring about the olive oil, since it can run expensive and if it was for the whole head that would be quite a bill.

Thanks boo. I'm definitely trying that out!

[Snow Wolf]

$4 for 17 oz. of cold press Olive Oil at the Dollar Store if you live ine the USA.

[Stormflakes]

I use it (olive oil) on all my hair, not just the ends.  It spreads nicely so it doesn't take much.  Too much and you look like a greasy mess.  The last bottle I bought lasted almost 2 months and I paid about $5.50 for it.  That's less than 0.10¢ a day.  It works for me, but keep in mind I have coarse hair.  I'm not sure what the result would be for those with fine hair.

[TempestBrewer]

Ah, I have pretty fine hair, but I have a lot of it.  I could try a little on my ends and see.

You bring up an interesting point-- for those participating in the study, maybe you could indicate what kind of hair you have when you're drawing conclusions about how it worked. It may be tougher for some types than others.

[FoxFire]

Me too, hence the initial interest.  So far so good, I've gone awhile without washing it before (because I had to >.< ) and it got really bad really fast.  Using the baking soda paste with vinegar wash really seems to be doing the trick.  Still a little heavier than I like but hopefully I can get past this part.  I'm so anal about my hair *twitch*

i have gotten pretty anal about  my hair too. Rafe used to bug me so she could come and play with it. ask her what my mane is like.




I have uber thick baby fine hair. its slightly curly and poofs with normal shampoo.

[DeseretRose]

I have very fine hair. 

Today's day two (three since shampoo) and my hair's flat.  I'd normally wash it again today. Normally, too, it's all tangled by now-- dry on the ends, greasy on the scalp.   I find it interesting is that rinsing it in water yesterday, and brushing it before bed, my hair is very well-behaved, even if it is limp at the moment. I'm going to try egg yolks when I wash it, tell you all how it goes, plus a picture from my webcam if it'll cooperate.

[thalassa]

hmmm...I have super-thick hair thats about shoulder length, and colored...

no problems thus far...I feel I little funk-dified, but I haven't showered yet today either, AND I have been house cleaning and mucking about in the kitchen---that could be part of the problem...

the hair is a bit oily up top, but not as much as I would expect after 5 days---then again, I have been doing what I used to do when I was on swim team...conditioning only washes (which work really well to prevent chlorine damage if you swim regularly...along with getting your hair wet BEFORE you get in the pool), and then I have been following it up with an ACV rinse (YAY acronyms!) and an herbal spritz (to get rid of any last lingering ACV smell and to make it smell yummy)...

I normally have pretty healthy, full hair (especially considering I color it), which I attribute pre-natal vitamins...normally its not TOO oily, but it does normally tend to get that way after about 3 days--so we will see...I'm going to try the baking soda thing after I go to the store to get some more (used the last of it the other day on a project).

since I'm almost out of conditioner (part of the reason I hasn't washed my hair when this thread started was that I had run out, and forgotten to pick up shampoo), I think I'll be using what I use on sophie, rather than olive oil (which I am more than happy to incorporate into healing salves, or cook with, but TBH, which I personally think is a bit thick and smelly)...

Normally her scalp gets REALLY dry on the few occasions that I have bothered to wash her "hair", or actually use soap on her during her bath.......generally I just use my knock off version of this in the bath water...so I came up with a grapeseed-sunflower (lightly rose infused) oil and jojoba with lavender and chamomile essential oil mix in a mister to spritz her with after-bath, which works great--AND smells yummy...

[picaboo]

Apparently my hair is fine, but I have a ton of it so it looks pretty normal.  So far it's just a little oily on top, easily fixed by the baking soda I've found.  Didn't have ACV so I've been using distilled white, and it seems to be working just fine.  My boyfriend says I don't smell like vinegar, whew, but I'm still going to make a nicer smelling wash. 

Deseret, what are you doing with the egg yolks?  Just squish them around your whole head?  I've been wanting to try eggs for awhile but am not sure exactly what to do with them.

[DeseretRose]

ok, here's what my hair did today with the eggwash. 




I'm sorry it's so hard to see, but I don't have a digital camera, just the little one built into my laptop (I am also sorry for for inflicting the edge of my ugly couch on all of you, but that's another story ). 

What I did was I took two egg yolks, beat them until they lightened and got a little foamy, and then worked them into my scalp like shampoo once my hair was wet.  I used cold water, since I didn't want scrambled eggs (it makes me wonder if people who complain about an eggy smell used warm water).  The funny thing is, when I rinsed it out my hair squeaked, like I'd just washed it.  I did an apple cider vinegar rinse after, but couldn't stand the smell, so I didn't leave it in my hair. 

My hair feels very soft, more like what I'm used to feeling in animal hair then human hair.  It's more managable then normal, but limp (not surprising this early on, though), and seems to think it's slightly wavy.  And shiny--did I mention shiny?

[Narmez]

Looks great, DeseretRose

I am trying something a little different while I have no access to alternative methods. This morning I tried using a lot less shampoo than I usually do...about a teaspoon. It felt strange because my hair still felt oily afterward, but now that it's dry it looks a lot healthier than it does after I wash my hair with more than the teaspoon amount. Mind that I never blow dry my hair...I towel dry gently, enough to keep my hair from soaking my shirt, and let it air dry. I'll take some pictures this weekend

I am going to try this method for awhile and see how it works, then possibly use a bit less each time and slowly convert to using a herbal rinse or something. I think it might end up being a great alternative to just cutting off from shampoo completely at first, for those who would rather be able to wear their hair down while experimenting.

[Raphaeline]

I don't get dandruff except in one little spot around my bangs... it would seem that this process would help to alleviate this, correct?

I think I can do the egg part, but I can't do the vinegar part.  That stuff makes me nauseous.  I need to keep reading to learn more about it, to see if eliminating that will work, or replacing it with something else is necessary.

[thalassa]

I think I can do the egg part, but I can't do the vinegar part.  That stuff makes me nauseous.  I need to keep reading to learn more about it, to see if eliminating that will work, or replacing it with something else is necessary.

what about lemon juice?




btw...

scalp in the back, above the nape of my neck is getting itchy, as is the hair under my bun...

BUT I think most of that is that I have to wear my hair up for greater than 12 hours a day...my whole head gets itchy when  I DO wash it...and then put it up wet, so we will have to see once I go home and can take my hair down, if that might be the real cause...

[DeseretRose]

I don't get dandruff except in one little spot around my bangs... it would seem that this process would help to alleviate this, correct?

Do you use hairspray on your bangs, by any chance?  I need to take a cloth or paper and cover my face when I use hairspray, or else (depending on the weather) I end up with either dandruff or little acne right at my hairline.
 
I agree about the lemon juice.  When my hair was still long, ie down to my lower back, I used equal parts lemon juice and water as a makeshift hairspray.  It might be a good solution for those of you that are needing product.  Be aware, though, it gives your hair little highlights if you're out in the sun with it. 

[booberry]

A good hairdresser told me once that the "zones" in your face continue into your scalp.  So, for example, if you have an oily or dry "t-zone" on your face it will continue into your hair line down the centre of your scalp.  so if you have a dry tzone, it could be why your bangs are dry and flaky

[thalassa]

OMG...

I did the most wonderful thing last night...

I gave myself a tea-tree oil scalp massage....

my head still feels happy...


and after a baking soda scrub (which I really like, by the way!), conditioner "wash" and ACV rinse...my hair is soft and purty

[ElvenDestiny]

I'm a guy, but I'll give some herbal or "other" methods a try, I have naturally very oilly hair so I have to wash my hair every day or it looks horrible (even though its very short now) its one of those things that you can just tell, infact if I don't have time to take a shower that day or what not, you'd always know cause I wear a hat that day .  The other side to this is when i use shampoo, doesnt matter what brand, I get a horribly dry scalp, and it iches really bad, Over the course of years and years, I was actually suggested once to use cold water when washing my hair, and the dryness after shampooing went away, but I can tell that its because the cold water is perventing an ingrediant from activating or something because with cold water my hair is not nearly as oil free.  SO I'm wiling to give other methods a try too, Ill scan through here to see what peoples idea's are.

[Snow Wolf]

I found something interesting when I got my herbal catalog this quarter:

Henna is a natural plant coloring for the hair; made from the powdered leaves of a desert shrub plant, Lawsonia. The Henna we offer is 100% natural and organically grown, and is free from pesticide residues, with no synthetic additives or artificial coloring agents.

Henna contains hannatannic acid which, when mixed with hot water, will coat the hair. It seals in oils and tightens the hair cuticle giving your hair a rich, healthy shine. Henna has no lightening action, so the shade that you choose will depend on your hair color (natural or tinted). Applied as a mud and washed out after 1 to 2 hours. Its effects will last up to 3 months.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/hair/hair.php#hair_hn

[thalassa]

if anyone decides to use henna on their hair...

...its messy...

and you should only use it on virgin hair---not chemically processed (color, perm, etc) hair...

[Snow Wolf]

if anyone decides to use henna on their hair...

...its messy...

and you should only use it on virgin hair---not chemically processed (color, perm, etc) hair...

Eh, I just thought it might be helpful since it talked about locking the oils in. Sounds messy though.

[DeseretRose]

OMG...

I did the most wonderful thing last night...

I gave myself a tea-tree oil scalp massage....

my head still feels happy...


and after a baking soda scrub (which I really like, by the way!), conditioner "wash" and ACV rinse...my hair is soft and purty

Ooo...that sounds really nice.  I'm going to have to try that. 

Hey Thal, with the henna, what about hair that was dyed a *long* time ago?  I last dyed my hair black around last March, and so I'm starting to want find a tint of some sort--something to keep my hair a little darker then my natural color.

[GracieGray]

When my hair was short I washed it everyday.  Now I usually go 3 or 4 days between washings, and usually I give in and wash my hair mostly because my scalp gets too itchy to stand any more.  I'm thinking about trying an herbal rinse made with rosemary and lavender with a few drops of tea tree oil to see how that does.  I don't do anything where I need to be too concerned about my hair getting really dirty, I don't use sprays or gels or any such, and it's cold enough now that the whole sweaty head thing isn't an issue either. 

[Raphaeline]

Side note:  Who posted that link to the Long Hair Communitee?  Because now I'm addicted

[thalassa]

Hey Thal, with the henna, what about hair that was dyed a *long* time ago?  I last dyed my hair black around last March, and so I'm starting to want find a tint of some sort--something to keep my hair a little darker then my natural color.

I don't know for sure...

Its one of those things that I have heard the sad after effects of...

...although, after doing some reading, it seems that it might be limited to the TYPE of treatment---aparently metallic salts can react with hennas---which would make me think that would also depend WHEN you last treated your hair...but I'm not sure...

also...henna can make perms less effective, so  perm first and apply henna later....AND...if you don't like the color of your henna-ed hair, don't bleach it or use synthetic dye--both might make the henna harder to get out...

a good site is this...http://www.hennaforhair.com/ if you are looking for information...

the thing to remember is that henna colors your hair also, so if you DON'T want colored hair, and if you are just looking to "treat" it, Cassia (Cassia obovata, or Senna) might be the better option--AND it can be used safely on treated hair...its also one of the plants that get called henna (there are several), so it gets confusing---the henna for hair site talks about it here... http://www.hennaforhair.com/faq/cassiaobovata.html

[DeseretRose]

Thanks, I'll look into that 

Side note:  Who posted that link to the Long Hair Communitee?  Because now I'm addicted

That would be me 

[FoxFire]

well i haven't washed it with 'poo in like 4 days. needless to say. its fine on top but underneath its kinda funky. doesn't stink.  but feels weird. i know it takes adjustment time but ewwwwwwie!!!!