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  • #16
    Re: Initiation Question

    If you plan to fulfill a solitary path, then there is a self-initiation process that you can do yourself You basically cast a circle and call upon the deities of your primary pantheon. Meditate over it. DO what you believe is best for you. As with all other matters relating to religion, spirituality, and magick only you can know what is right for you. Go with the flow. See what you can come up with. Join Athena or another helpful deity in your astral temple and have a sort of question and answer session with said deity. They would be much more help than any one here. I promise you that much.

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    • #17
      Re: Initiation Question

      The process of initiation occurs prior to the ceremony. Initiation is a construct that strips away the lies you have learned to trust and replaces them with new things to learn. The process challenges your physical, mental, and spiritual self to do things that you have no idea that you can do. The final question in the process tells more about what you have learned than any of the tests before it.

      When you join the military you go through boot camp - it is the military version of initiation. While self initiation is possible it would take more self denial and hard work than most people wish to experience.
      The Dragon sees infinity and those it touches are forced to feel the reality of it.
      I am his student and his partner. He is my guide and an ominous friend.

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      • #18
        Re: Initiation Question

        IMO: One can self-dedicate, but one cannot self-initiate. By definition, initiation (in this context) is something that is done TO you as a method of bringing you into a group.
        “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

        “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
        ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

        "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
        ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

        "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

        Pagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible
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