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    When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    Place names in a foreign language can be very difficult. I know, having once had an impromptu lesson in Greek outside Athens airport....
    Anyway, thought you might enjoy some of the tongue twisters where I come from - and yes, they are all real places!


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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    I love things like this! You know, I didn't know how to say your name until I started listening to your radio show (love it btw, I pop ion a track at work as the sun is coming up, open all the windows to let in some fresh air and sit back with a nice hot drink!).

    I wish the common Brittonic/Brythonic had survived. I'd love to learn that so I could address my gods with it. I've heard modern Welsh came from Brythonic, but there'll have been so many changes over time, that it probably bears little resemblance now. I don't think the Welsh would appreciate an English girl trying to speak their language either.
    夕方に急なにわか雨は「夕立」と呼ばれるなら、なぜ朝ににわか雨は「朝立ち」と呼ばれないの? ^^If a sudden rain shower in the evening is referred to as an 'evening stand', then why isn't a shower in the morning called 'morning stand'?

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    When I was 12 or so, Tom Jones had a weekly tv show and he would close every show with a Welsh saying. I have no idea what it means but phonetically it's something like "gwen ick bee delemen eveek will a meneth bobamsa". Do you know what it means, Tylluan?

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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    Okay, to be fair though...

    How many of you call Llanfair PG by its FULL name? I've almost exclusively heard it mentioned as Llanfair PG.

    And hah! I knew some of those! Take that, Americans!
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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    I always had trouble with Trayvewrn
    Tyvwren
    trywenvrn....
    .....
    *google search*
    Tryweryn

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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    Thanks for the laughs! And a budding interest in the Welsh language.
    (Also, it's kind of funny how an English speaker commented on having two Ys in the same word (Tywyn) and pronouncing them diffently... Ghoti, anyone?)

    And a random coincidence: just a day or two ago I wondered how to pronounce that Llanfair thing. Ode to all the wisdom one can gain on PF!
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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    Near where I lived is a place called 'Llwynypia.'
    Because it has a hospital there, we have to say the word often, which isn't a problem really. However an English friend once asked whether there was an easier version of the hospital name. The receptionist smiled and said, 'Yes, of course. It's Ysbyty Cwm Rhondda.'
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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    I've actually been to Wales a few times and seen these signs for towns and streets that just made me tilt my head and go.... wtf? We even had a Welsh citizen say a few of them for me and I still had no clue how to reproduce the words.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also, if you go forward on that same playlist on youtube for about another 5-6 videos, you get some weird stuff...

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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    The Pontcysyllte Aquaduct on the Llangollen Canal always gives me trouble even though I lived for a while in Treharris Mid Glamorgan.

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    Re: When Americans try to pronounce Welsh Place Names...

    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    The Pontcysyllte Aquaduct on the Llangollen Canal always gives me trouble even though I lived for a while in Treharris Mid Glamorgan.
    Yes, it doesn't sound anything like it looks, does it? Local pronounciation always sounds like Pont-stick to me!
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