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    "One right way" to find a patron/matron deity- Yes or no?

    I see a lot of people who say there's specific things that have to happen or specific ways you have to do something to know you've found a patron/matron deity. (not on here- other websites).
    I found my matron deity because I've felt a connection to her name and presence ever since I was a young child.

    However, I see a lot of people saying that you "have" to have dreams or visions during meditation or that kind of encounter to know what your patron/matron deity is.

    Eh. I don't like that idea. I don't like the you "Have" to do this part.

    Also, there are people who are against the idea that some know who thier matron diety is when they are still new to paganism. Again I call BS. It's a connection. And if you feel that connection when you first start, good for you. I don't think there's a specific "time" or age that you need to know who your patron deity is if you want one, nor do I think that you can be "too new." However, I see this one a lot, and Ive even been told it a couple times.

    Not everyone has spiritual encounters or things like that, especially people who aren't very good at meditation.

    I've seen others say everyone finds their patron deity a different way, and only you "know" when you've found them. I honestly agree more with this argument. There are different ways to do everything.

    Like in Christianity, some honor Yaweh by not eating meat specific days, some go to church, some pray at home, some do all of those and some do none of them. People practice in different ways.

    Everyone is an individual and I feel that others have no right to tell them if they are doing something right or wrong, especially when it comes to things like this.

    What do you all think?
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    I do not believe there is a given way for one to find their patron or patroness. Of course that assumes they in fact have a patron or patroness who accepts them and in returns offers support, guidance, insight, into their lives and such.

    I admit I do not tend to support the idea of the rolodex approach to finding a divinity. If you run an add that your looking for something then something is sure to respond to your add. That to me is what happens when a person tries to find a patron / patroness by going through a listing of attributes and correlations to find someone. Basically equating it to walking up to someone on the street and implying your now going to be the best of friends forever, all based upon physical characteristics or what others have said.
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      You don't have to have dreams. It works differently with everyone. I have dreams from time to time because I'm strong visually. It doesn't and won't be the same with someone else.

      As for feeling a connection when you're new - I suggest caution. Because there are similar deities. For instance Mafdet and Bast. Maybe even Sekhmet because Bast was in the beginning a Netjeri with a head of a lioness.
      If you feel a connection to a deity - good for you. Look the deity up in the web and dig some info about it and try to contact the deity when you feel ready.
      Maybe, just maybe, a deity will be offended if you mistake it for someone else. That's why you should things carefully.

      It's the first time i hear that people who worship Yhwh don't eat meat on specific days. I know that there is a break of few hours between milky things and meat. If the works for them - good.
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        Originally posted by Gleb View Post
        You don't have to have dreams. It works differently with everyone. I have dreams from time to time because I'm strong visually. It doesn't and won't be the same with someone else.

        As for feeling a connection when you're new - I suggest caution. Because there are similar deities. For instance Mafdet and Bast. Maybe even Sekhmet because Bast was in the beginning a Netjeri with a head of a lioness.
        If you feel a connection to a deity - good for you. Look the deity up in the web and dig some info about it and try to contact the deity when you feel ready.
        Maybe, just maybe, a deity will be offended if you mistake it for someone else. That's why you should things carefully.

        It's the first time i hear that people who worship Yhwh don't eat meat on specific days. I know that there is a break of few hours between milky things and meat. If the works for them - good.
        Catholocism has a number of fast days, a number of Catholics interpret some of these days as days not to eat meat. I'm pretty sure this interpretation is technically in error but lecturing Catholics on the proper way to conduct a fast day isn't a priority for me.
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          Soo,no meat does not include fish right?...Never could understand how fish is not meat..
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            Originally posted by Gleb View Post
            You don't have to have dreams. It works differently with everyone. I have dreams from time to time because I'm strong visually. It doesn't and won't be the same with someone else.

            As for feeling a connection when you're new - I suggest caution. Because there are similar deities. For instance Mafdet and Bast. Maybe even Sekhmet because Bast was in the beginning a Netjeri with a head of a lioness.
            If you feel a connection to a deity - good for you. Look the deity up in the web and dig some info about it and try to contact the deity when you feel ready.
            Maybe, just maybe, a deity will be offended if you mistake it for someone else. That's why you should things carefully.

            It's the first time i hear that people who worship Yhwh don't eat meat on specific days. I know that there is a break of few hours between milky things and meat. If the works for them - good.
            Yes of course I know
            I was referring more to the people who say you have to be pagan for YEARS before knowing who your patron/gods goddesses are.

            I wasn't specifically referring to me if that's what you were thinking- I actually meant to write I SUSPECT I've found my matron diety xD I need to proofread better

            - - - Updated - - -

            Yes to edit my original post I meant to write I SUSPECT I may have found my matron diety- I haven't done anything yet, I'm still meditating on it
            Not very important but I still wanted to clarify.
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              Why Do Catholics Eat Fish on Friday?, by Michael P. Foley; published by Palgrave Macmillan, 2005 When I picked up this intriguingly titled paperback, I expected it to be a zippy read, informative, …
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                Thank you McDonald’s because I love Filet-o-Fish..but not cause I was ever Catholic...

                Did you know that the Catholic practice of abstaining from meat on Friday was the reason for the creation of McDonald’s Filet-o-Fish sandwich?
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                  ^^^ I did. I remember when that sandwich came out. When I worked at McD's in high school, they didn't have it yet.
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                    I really have nothing to say that wasn't already said over here.
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                      I believe that it is up to the individual person. Everyone is different. With me my patron often appeared in my dreams. The main pantheon I connect with is the Egyptian. That is what worked for me.
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                        I'm a strong believer that there's rarely a "one right way" to do anything. I always say read read read, research, talk to Whomever you want to make a connection with. Other than that, do what works for you.
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                          My typical response is summed up pretty on point with my phrase under my avatar <----

                          However, it can very easily be applied to both walking whatever path you so choose, as well as the roads that you take to find said path. Everyone is different, and they each have their own experiences. Though, I will recommend as previously stated by a few other members, reading up on the deity in question is always a good place to start-though I'd like to add in reading up on the religion as a whole as it's really not the best thing to go picking and choosing certain parts you like of a religion and certain parts you don't because I've noticed it tends to lead to more trouble than its worth.

                          Either way, do what feels right to you as long as you're doing anything illegal, immoral, or life threatening in my opinion. Good luck figuring it all out
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                            It seems there are two types of people when it comes to finding a spiritual path. some it just comes to them like falling rain or wind or snow..others they search everywhere and can find nothing,even when sometimes it would have bitten them if it was a dog...they were so close and could not see.
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                              Re: &quot;One right way&quot; to find a patron/matron deity- Yes or no?

                              Originally posted by CrystalJackal View Post
                              Everyone is an individual and I feel that others have no right to tell them if they are doing something right or wrong, especially when it comes to things like this.

                              What do you all think?
                              Agree 100%.
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