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    Should the genetic engineering of animals be disallowed?
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    This will become a major issue as they phase this in. Now if they do the "Grow meat in the lab thing" that will please Vegie types,BUT may upset the anti genetic alteration people. Just seems that lab grown meat needs genetic altering I think.
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      #3
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      No. It is now possible, so it can not be prevented.

      Ethics and controls and protocols need to be established by and for those engaged in doing that research.
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        Originally posted by thalassa View Post
        Should the genetic engineering of animals be disallowed?
        Honestly, I think that genetic testing should be done on people that are never getting out of prison, but that's my very spiky opinion.
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          Will this make them more tastier? Because then I dunno. But I don't want to make them into monsters with 40 inch biceps either.

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            #6
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            We talking chickens here? weight lifting chickens?? Home run hitting chickens?? chickens being investigated by Congress for using skill enhancing feed??

            here comes Super Chicken.....

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              Define genetic engineering. Selective breeding is a form of gene manipulation. It's a rather slow one but it fits the bill. There are other more radical forms of gene mod floating around so define genetic engineering and I might have a comment.
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                Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
                Define genetic engineering. Selective breeding is a form of gene manipulation. It's a rather slow one but it fits the bill. There are other more radical forms of gene mod floating around so define genetic engineering and I might have a comment.
                Artifical selection isn't considered genetic engineering--the scientific definition of genetic engineering is "the process of manually adding new DNA to an organism" for the purpose of adding "one or more new traits that are not already found in that organism", by creating what is called a transgenic organism (source). Basically, its splicing genes from one organism and inserting them into the genome of another.
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                  This kinda speaks volumes.
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                    #10
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                    Yes... The term GMO - Genetically Modified Organism - to actually have a real meaning should include the specific idea of actually modifying genes, rather than manipulating a genome, which is what is done in selective breeding.
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                      #11
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                      Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                      Yes... The term GMO - Genetically Modified Organism - to actually have a real meaning should include the specific idea of actually modifying genes, rather than manipulating a genome, which is what is done in selective breeding.
                      Wouldn't this then apply to humans as well? Think GATTACA vs. marrying someone with the same color hair as yourself hoping that your children have that way as well.

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                        Originally posted by Munin-Hugin View Post
                        Wouldn't this then apply to humans as well? Think GATTACA vs. marrying someone with the same color hair as yourself hoping that your children have that way as well.
                        That would be self-selected selective breeding. Weirdly, humans can choose to breed traits into and out of themselves. While this may seem strange, it is what people who carry a predisposition for certain genetic diseases who choose not to have children are doing...

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                        Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                        This kinda speaks volumes.

                        I'm sorry, Anunitu. That speaks nothing at all.

                        In order to create the illusion of saying something, it relies on ignorance about selective breeding, animal husbandry (how an animal is fed and housed), use of chemical adjuncts to feed, etc.

                        This is where Thalassa needs to come along and launch and explanation of "epigenetics."

                        I'd do it myself but I lack the qualification do do much beyond recognize it's existence, and bring it up in the appropriate context...
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                          Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post

                          This is where Thalassa needs to come along and launch and explanation of "epigenetics."

                          I'd do it myself but I lack the qualification do do much beyond recognize it's existence, and bring it up in the appropriate context...
                          Thalassa loves epigenetics!!!


                          I'll try to get to this later today, when I need a real break, not just a *waiting for program to load* break.
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                            #14
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                            I agree B. De. actually,that pic seems to be in every anti genetic story...I am not as concerned about the science as I am about how it effects my eating habits..lab grown meat,maybe if it has the right nutriments and also does not loose the taste factor....


                            And Thal,damn you be smart lady.....and B. De. as well...ya must have been something as kids..
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                              #15
                              Re: GMO animals

                              Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                              Should the genetic engineering of animals be disallowed?
                              My short answer is 'yes'.

                              But I have just as much of an issue with most current selective breeding in both companion animals and livestock, and I also think that needs to be more stringently regulated.

                              I have no long answer today, because my brain and energy levels aren't up to it right now.

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