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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by volcaniclastic View Post
    It doesn't have to do with thicker skin or "being sensitive". We as moderators have the responsibility to make the forum appropriately comfortable for EVERYONE. If there are people in the forum who don't feel welcome because of someone else's actions, then it's our job to look into it.

    You're welcome to disagree. You're welcome to not take it as an insult as well, but not everyone sees it that way (which is, by the way, the beauty of humanity).

    If I were called "immature", I personally would be offended. If someone in the forum came to me and complained to me about something you said to them, I would be obligated to take some kind of action to correct that behaviour. Here at PF, we don't jump straight to infractions except for serious issues (or if the person is a repeat offender), but you've got to realize there's a reason your reputation bar is in the red here. It means, at some point, you said something that offended someone else.
    Well, I'm not going to apologize for speaking the truth.

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    Also, I don't see it your way either because everybody will get offended just about everything these days.
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Different forums have different cultures. I know forums where an accusation of immaturity is almost never* going to get a mod's attention. By contrast, calling someone out as immature on PF will probably attract my attention but not necessarily merit an immediate response. You are apparently dealing with a forum that handles things more strictly.

    * I say almost never because context is king. Calling someone immature while arguing a point on SB is liable to be tolerated. Following them around the boards to call them immature in every thread they appear in or sending a legion of PMs explaining how immature you think someone is will rapidly transition from a light rebuke that none of SB's staff care about into harassment which SB explicitly bans and will get infractions delivered until the behavior stops (either voluntarily or due to infractions tripping a ban trigger).
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Well, I'm not going to apologize for speaking the truth.

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    Also, I don't see it your way either because everybody will get offended just about everything these days.
    Listen dude. Moderators and admins run this forum. If you don't like the rules, you can always leave. But you do have to follow them. We expect people to be at least minimally polite, which means whether you like it or not, you need to be aware of how offensive your language can be. Using words that indicate someone is less of a person is offensive. And immature is one of those words. And fact of the matter is, if you hurt someone with your words enough, regardless of whether your feel you are "telling the truth", you better be ready to apologize, or face the consequences of that action.
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shahaku View Post
    Listen dude. Moderators and admins run this forum. If you don't like the rules, you can always leave. But you do have to follow them. We expect people to be at least minimally polite, which means whether you like it or not, you need to be aware of how offensive your language can be. Using words that indicate someone is less of a person is offensive. And immature is one of those words. And fact of the matter is, if you hurt someone with your words enough, regardless of whether your feel you are "telling the truth", you better be ready to apologize, or face the consequences of that action.
    Err, to be fair, he's talking about an infraction received on a different forum. If he was talking about us then this conversation would've ended by now with red text. Making a public spectacle out of infractions is not actually permitted and would've netted an infract by now.
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedOne View Post
    Err, to be fair, he's talking about an infraction received on a different forum. If he was talking about us then this conversation would've ended by now with red text. Making a public spectacle out of infractions is not actually permitted and would've netted an infract by now.
    I realize, but if the infraction had happened here, an apology could by required, regardless of whether he felt the comment was true. It's the attitude, which I'm sure he applies equally between forums, that I'm taking issue with.
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shahaku View Post
    Listen dude. Moderators and admins run this forum. If you don't like the rules, you can always leave. But you do have to follow them. We expect people to be at least minimally polite, which means whether you like it or not, you need to be aware of how offensive your language can be. Using words that indicate someone is less of a person is offensive. And immature is one of those words. And fact of the matter is, if you hurt someone with your words enough, regardless of whether your feel you are "telling the truth", you better be ready to apologize, or face the consequences of that action.
    I wasn't even talking about this forum, I was talking about another forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahaku View Post
    Listen dude. Moderators and admins run this forum. If you don't like the rules, you can always leave. But you do have to follow them. We expect people to be at least minimally polite, which means whether you like it or not, you need to be aware of how offensive your language can be. Using words that indicate someone is less of a person is offensive. And immature is one of those words. And fact of the matter is, if you hurt someone with your words enough, regardless of whether your feel you are "telling the truth", you better be ready to apologize, or face the consequences of that action.
    I wasn't even talking about this forum, I was talking about another forum.

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    And just for the record. I have no problem with this forum at all.

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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    A person in my life told me to "just go to chiropractor and get rid of your anxiety and depression". That, along with the rest of the conversation, was a huge waste of my time and I actually feel stupider for having listened to those words.
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    I decided to have some ice cream a bit ago and now my stomach aches.
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    Re: The Rant Thread (v 1.2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper View Post
    I decided to have some ice cream a bit ago and now my stomach aches.
    Oh no. Are you ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Oh no. Are you ok?
    Yeah. Just been making a lot of bad food choices lately and I think my body is telling me to stop it.
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