Do you think Christianity will accept gay marriage now it's legal in the United States?
Do you think Christianity will accept gay marriage now it's legal in the United States?
Accept,perhaps not,but law is a bit more than belief...
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Christianity, or Christians? There is a huge difference between the terminology...
“I am Cat and I walk alone and all ways are the same to me.” ~Rudyard Kipling, The Cat Who Walks By Himself
There is also a massive difference between what one Christian does and what another does.
Many Christians have long accepted gay marriage. There are Christians who are IN gay marriages.
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Unlikely, but if I were ever to go back to being Christian, I would go back to the church of my childhood:
The UCC puts trying to be like Christ back into being Christian...
“You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom
“We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee
"We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History
"Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett
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There are some Christian churches that have been performing same gender marriages for a long time.
Having said that I doubt that the "conservative" Christian churches will perform same gender marriages any time soon.
Either way it doesn't matter. They are finally legal and acknowledged by the state just like any other marriage.
I have performed same gender marriages and handfastings as well as multiple couple handfastings. Where love is involved the only constraints should be mental capacity and age. Age limits are one of the variables that have no hard and fast rule that can be applied across the board. The state says that if one is below the age of 18 years that you must have permission and below the age of 16 you must get court approval. Those guidelines are fair in most situations when IQs are within the "normal" range but I have known a 14 year old girl who was more prepared for marriage than the adult she was dating. They did eventually get married when she turned 18. She is in total control of their relationship. (that bothers me just a bit as I see marriages as a partnership) At the same time I am the dominant in my marriage but in all matters other than religious my wife chooses to be submissive. when we enter circle she becomes the goddess and I become the god. We are partners of equal importance in circle. There are places where TPE has no place.
That one is iffy I think. I actually read an interesting piece recently that legally may support Christian's and the anti-gay marriage aspect. Basically the premise was that the only federal statute that defined marriage was DOMA. Since the Supreme Court struck down DOMA and found aspects to be illegal there now is no Federal statute supporting or defining marriage now. As such it undid the aspect of DOMA that took control from the States regarding defining marriage. The Supreme Court can not create or pass laws it can only define whether they are constitutional the House and Senate are the only federal agencies that can create laws and no such revamped law has been created or passed. So by legal definition it is back in the hands of each state to determine what the laws pertaining to same gender marriage, or any marriage for that matter shall be.
So all the celebrations may actually be premature as no new law was written by the Legislature to make it federally recognized. The SCOTUS ruling simply stated and determined that the existing federal law was unconstitutional and thus that aspect removed.
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I'm pretty sure that doesn't work the way they think it does but reading a SCOTUS decision ranks right up there with closely examining the tax code on the list of things I'm happier not doing tonight.
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Yoda told stories, and ate, and cried, and laughed: and the Padawans saw that life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
"But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."
John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper
"You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."
Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis
Oh I agree it's like reading a booklet of instructions. Yet the constitutional fact remains SCOTUS can not make or create a law that is reserved to the House of Representatives, the Senate and the President through executive orders. No such law was passed creating a federal level law which dictates how the states have to recognize marriages and those specific aspects of DOMA were found to be unconstitutional and therefor can not legally be the law of the land.
I'm Only Responsible For What I Say Not For What Or How You Understand!
The supreme court ruling was that the RIGHT to marry extends to same gender couples. As a right, the states have no say in the matter.
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