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    Tomato: Fruit Or Vegetable

    Mankind have been boggling this question for centuries. Is a tomato really a fruit or a vegetable? I think is a vegetable because what I learn at school is that a tomato is really a vegetable 100%.

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    The argument I heard was that anything with seeds is a fruit, so avocados and olives can be considered fruits, so with cucumbers, and so on. It's like the argument if Pluto is a planet or an asteroid, or if Earth is conscious or just electromagnetic (which is probably a bad example, considering I am not scientifically apt, at all).

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      I foresee a lot of blood being spilled in this thread over this hot button issue.

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        This is a hot button issue? Lol
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          Originally posted by Juniper View Post
          This is a hot button issue? Lol
          Nix vs. Hedden and the Supreme Court's ruling to uphold the Tariff Act of 1893, which said that a tomato was a vegetable, still boils my blood to this day.

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            Wanna be mad? A peanut is technically not a nut.

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              The only important peanut is Snoopy.

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                Biologically speaking, tomatoes are fruits (as are peanuts).

                In biology (or botany, if we want to get real technical), any component of a plant (edible or non edible) that contains the seed (there are fancy descriptors involving plant ovaries... Thal probably knows them) is a fruit. That means anything that has seeds, and also most nuts and legumes, plus things like corn cobs and a even certain grains.

                Conversely, there is no biological definition of a 'vegetable'. The term 'vegetable' is not a technical term and only exists in culinary and common vernacular contexts.

                So what that means is that if you want to argue using common vernacular, a tomato can be described as either a fruit or a vegetable and both are 'correct'. But if you want to use science, it's a fruit and nothing anyone says will change that.

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                  They are both.

                  The fruit is the structure which surrounds the seeds, in apples it's that plastic-like substance. The flesh is not, however, the fruit in botany, but in common parlance.

                  A vegetable is any edible part of a plant, whether stem (celery), flower (artichoke), seed (pea), leaves (cabbage) or 'fruit', including tomato, so its a false dichotomy.

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                    Tomato,tommotto...lets call the whole thing off...Potato,pataatoo
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                      I see this thread and all I can think of is this:

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                        From my botany notes:

                        Fruit: fleshy or dry seed bearing structure that develops from the mature ovary--consists of the carpels (where ovules/seeds develop) and the ovary wall (pericarp, inc. endo-, meso-, and exo/epicarp) and associated structures
                        *Simple fruits--develop from a single flower containing a single carpel or several fused carpels (ex. cherry, apricot)
                        *Aggregate fruits--develop from a single flower with multiple separate carpels (ex. blackberry)
                        *Multiple fruits--develop from multiple flowers (ex. pineapple)

                        Exocarp (or epicarp)--outer wall of the fruit, "skin"
                        Mesocarp--middle, often fleshy layer
                        Endocarp--inner part surrounding seeds

                        Not from my botany notes because I got sick of typing:

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                          I know this is completely not scientific, but for me, if it's sweet, it's a fruit. If it's not, it's a veggie. Tomatoes would taste disgusting in a smoothie with raspberries and pears. Ergo, it's a veggie.
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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by habbalah View Post
                            I know this is completely not scientific, but for me, if it's sweet, it's a fruit. If it's not, it's a veggie. Tomatoes would taste disgusting in a smoothie with raspberries and pears. Ergo, it's a veggie.
                            Yeah, but I put sweet potatoes and carrots in smoothies with bananas and pineapple
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                              Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                              Yeah, but I put sweet potatoes and carrots in smoothies with bananas and pineapple
                              Bleh. No offense, but I think cooked carrots are disgusting. I prefer most veggies raw.
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