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    #31
    Re: Things That Are Racist

    Originally posted by DragonsFriend View Post
    Some pagans still use the Celtic cross after the Nazis used it as a reward for sevice to the motherland and called it the "Iron Cross". The swastika is still known as a symbol of healing and protection in spite of the Nazi uses.The "Star of David" is still used as a symbol of healing by non Jewish people. A symbol isn't racist, people are.
    So that Iron Cross is also used by dummies like Jesse James.

    People like him have ruined the 'original purpose'. That cat is out of the bag, never to return to its owner.

    The healing power of the swastika is know as a healing power symbol before the nazis ruined it. I give you that. But just show me how the majority of the people here in the US use that sign. Go on. I'll wait.

    The star of David. First thing that pops in your head is the current majority use. I'ma Jew.

    Again. The times have changed and racist people ruin symbols. It's sad. But I ain't detecting no lies.

    Here in the US when you fly that flag, we know what you are saying. And when you get confronted, you then become an authorized historian of the civil war. Bull.
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      #32
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      Still not sure what Sandra B. saw in that guy....
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        #33
        Re: Things That Are Racist

        Originally posted by anunitu View Post
        Still not sure what Sandra B. saw in that guy....
        He's hot. Till he speaks. Then it's like David Beckham. You ever hear his voice?
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          #34
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          I think that before anyone here keeps repeating bad history, that I'm sure they think is true and have heard repeated elsewhere, the need to stop and invest about a.year of their time to read either of Winthrop Jordan's books on the history of slavery in the US and every text he footnoted or referenced (most of which are primary sources). There's so much wrong here, I don't even know where to start.
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            #35
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            I'm just here to confess my love, passion and obsession with flags... I love flags! I like looking at them, designing them and talking about them. So this thread has been really interesting for me. Did you know the study of flags is called vexillology? It has the word LOL in it so it must be fun, right?

            Anyways if you wanna find out some facts about the Confederate Flag I highly recommend watching this video:

            [4:82]

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              #36
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              Are you really Sheldon Cooper...watch the "big bang theory"

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                #37
                Re: Things That Are Racist

                Originally posted by DragonsFriend View Post
                Some pagans still use the Celtic cross after the Nazis used it as a reward for sevice to the motherland and called it the "Iron Cross". The swastika is still known as a symbol of healing and protection in spite of the Nazi uses.The "Star of David" is still used as a symbol of healing by non Jewish people. A symbol isn't racist, people are.
                Just a heads up....

                This symbol: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...astika.svg.png

                is still very different to this flag:


                Also, if you come to Europe, you still won't see the former waving around a lot, because that symbol has been corrupted to European people. Because that symbol has come to mean something VERY VERY DIFFERENT to Europeans to what it means in Buddhist culture. Get your head out of your ass.

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                  #38
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                  That one(Nazi) was known as the "Blood flag" if I read right.

                  Blood flag here.
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                    #39
                    Re: Things That Are Racist

                    Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                    That one(Nazi) was known as the "Blood flag" if I read right.

                    Blood flag here.
                    Even the symbol alone without the red is corrupted, though. Like if you draw that on your house, even sideways and pointing in the other direction, you will have major, major issues. Even if it wasn't a banned symbol in Germany (due to the de-Nazification laws that the Allied countries also played a big role in imposing, in case anyone wants to call Germany out for limiting freedom of speech) that could land you with fines, people would have a huge problem with it. It's not banned in other European countries and I'm still pretty sure that you can't just use it in those countries. People would have a problem with it.

                    But in case you're curious, it's usually just referred to as the "national socialist flag" or the "flag of the third reich" in Germany. They don't even tend to use the word "swastika" here....it's more commonly called a "Hakenkreuz" (hooked cross? bent cross? I'm not sure exactly how to translate this one).
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                      #40
                      Re: Things That Are Racist

                      Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                      hooked cross?
                      Stormfront and /pol/ go with hooked cross.
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                        #41
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                        Originally posted by Denarius View Post
                        Stormfront and /pol/ go with hooked cross.
                        Thanks.

                        Either way, the people of Germany and Europe overall are not fans.

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                          #42
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                          How could this thread have conceivably been a good idea? Posting about racism is guaranteed to pull out dissenting opinions and lead to arguments.
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                            #43
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                            Very true. Also, although I think that the Klan and blackface are pretty objectively racist, do we really need a thread to point that out? Aren't we more or less aware by now that they're racist? Why not have a thread debating a specific topic related to racism such as cultural appropriation, symbols and their meanings (which is what this thread has more or less become anyway), or something like that.

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                              #44
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                              Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                              Very true. Also, although I think that the Klan and blackface are pretty objectively racist, do we really need a thread to point that out? Aren't we more or less aware by now that they're racist? Why not have a thread debating a specific topic related to racism such as cultural appropriation, symbols and their meanings (which is what this thread has more or less become anyway), or something like that.
                              Also, it's not in the debate section, which it probably should be at this point.
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                                #45
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                                I don't think the Nazi flag was delved into as much as it should. Germany has banned the flying of the flag, with a heavy prison sentence/fine to those who disobey. It is a dark time in their history, and they do not tolerate such ideologies to remain.
                                Slavery was such a dark time in our American history, that flag was flown by the south who wanted to retain the use and mistreatment of slaves.
                                What more is there to know? A flag represents many things, and history is soon forgotten.

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                                The pale guests await thee - mead foams in Valhalla.'"
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