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    #16
    Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

    People who are out to create anger and oposition are deflated like a leaky boob-job when met with humor.

    On the other hand, meet like with like and conflict puffs up like a marshmallow in the microwave.
    Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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      #17
      Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

      The push back is incredibly important in any movement. Violence is a tool. The media-liberal and conservative-are quick to decry any protester violence but are silent in the cases of State violence. That's always been interesting to me. These discussions about violence always ignore crimes of the State(other than dragging out the tired Nazi trope) and focus solely on citizen violence.

      In every U.S. protest movement there is always one violent group that ends up on the wrong side of history: The police and the State.

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        #18
        Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

        Wannbe revolutionaries always want revolution.

        They are the only ones to profit from it.

        The stories they tell of their virtues and motives are lies, the people are their pawns, the chaos they create gives them the power they crave.

        Someday people might stop falling for these tricks.

        But not today.
        Last edited by B. de Corbin; 27 Jun 2016, 07:14.
        Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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          #19
          Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

          Millions of people profited from thw U.S. Labor Movement and the worker regulations that came out of it.

          Millions of minorities profited from the Civil Rights movement and the protests that sprang from that.

          Just this month a mass strike by Verizon workers lead to better working conditions for them.

          So, it would seem that thw little guy only profits when they engage in a Revolutionary act.

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            #20
            Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

            Originally posted by ThePaganMafia View Post
            Millions of people profited from thw U.S. Labor Movement and the worker regulations that came out of it.

            Millions of minorities profited from the Civil Rights movement and the protests that sprang from that.

            Just this month a mass strike by Verizon workers lead to better working conditions for them.

            So, it would seem that thw little guy only profits when they engage in a Revolutionary act.

            I'm not sure that I would call those actions revolutionary. Maybe evolutionary as in fiscal and or political evolution. Is it revolutionary to to stand up for yourself? How about standing up for others? Contrary to present day PC speak it is, and always has been a natural right to defend oneself. Then again, even self defense is radical in this PC world although they still allow animals to defend themselves.
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              #21
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              Originally posted by DragonsFriend View Post
              Then again, even self defense is radical in this PC world although they still allow animals to defend themselves.
              Self defense is exactly that, defensive. When if fails to be defensive is where the problem comes in.
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                #22
                Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

                Not sure what political correctness has to do with it but, yes, I would consider forcibly changing the status quo via civil unrest a revolutionary act.

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                  #23
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                  Originally posted by ThePaganMafia View Post
                  Millions of people profited from thw U.S. Labor Movement and the worker regulations that came out of it.
                  See, that's funny because the nazi group at least claims to be a socialist labor party.

                  Then again, so did the actual Nazi party. Started off with a fairly balanced and somewhat reasonable (also somewhat questionable, even at this time IIRC) National Socialism... then once they gained power the entire socialism aspect went right in the trash and they went full Ultranationalist white supremacist/Aryanist.
                  Trust is knowing someone or something well enough to have a good idea of their motivations and character, for good or for ill. People often say trust when they mean faith.

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                    #24
                    Re: Violence and bigotry in Sacramento

                    Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                    Self defense is exactly that, defensive. When if fails to be defensive is where the problem comes in.
                    If self defense is not in response to a threat it is not self defense. If someone stops you on the street and demands your wallet/purse with a threat of violence do you run? give in? or confront? If you run you are putting the next victim in harms way; if you give in you are reinforcing the behavior; if you confront you are taking an active role in defense of yourself and any future victims.
                    These are, or could be, considered acts of defending ones self but the only one that is acceptable to me is confrontation. How about you? (collective "you" not just Thalassa)
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