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    Re: I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    My personal private property resides within my brain...Can't touch this!!!
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    Re: I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    In the light of the FAA's recent decision on commercial drones, this is probably a good idea.

    I don't necessarily need anything going into outer space and to the core, but a reasonable distance of a) not spying on me and b) not taking water, oil, etc out from under me even if from an adjacent property would be good.
    Let me add to this that 1) I don't think I should get paid for airplanes going overhead, etc. 2) I don't own all the water flowing through a section of waterway that runs through my property, and 3) Property is not a pie slice that starts at the center of the earth and works its way out into space--that is an antiquated standard originating from a time when technology didn't allow for the use of too far up or down whose adjustment, once those things became the norm, was necessary to be redefined. Unfortunately, its not been well defined, and technology has advanced even more since then. (a bit about property rights)

    A conversation and even legislation that better defines property rights needs to be had in light of things like the advent of wide-spread drone use, fracking, and increased damage to the environment from pollution, fragmentation, etc. If a business or individual generates pollution, they should be held responsible for how it impacts my property and the property of others. Someone in the media shouldn't be able to use a drone to spy on someone's property from the sky. An individual shouldn't be able to tunnel under someone's property to get to something under there or on the other side, etc, though (IMO) a subway should be able to get an easement (I was surprised that this is a thing).
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    Re: I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    Something came to mind. When I lived in California,a restored military jet,crashed into the mall. Now the airport originally was located a long way from the town. this was in Concord in conta costa county.
    See this map.


    The Town grew over the years,and built around the Airport. The Jet exploded because of its jet fuel. It was Christmas eve,BTW when the jet crashed. Several people,and children died. The jet hit right where the "Santa" for children was set up.

    The point is,if the town had not built right up to the airport,it would have crashed in a field.

    Here is a picture of the aftermath.
    MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

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    Re: I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post

    The Town grew over the years,and built around the Airport. The Jet exploded because of its jet fuel. It was Christmas eve,BTW when the jet crashed. Several people,and children died. The jet hit right where the "Santa" for children was set up.

    The point is,if the town had not built right up to the airport,it would have crashed in a field.
    Oceana and Virginia Beach are the same way--every few years someone is killed when a jet crashes.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

    Pagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible

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