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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    I know people with buildings full of weaponry. Two people live in the house. "How many can you fire at once and how long can you stay awake?" is always good to bring about a quick change of subject LOL

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
    My point is that I don't agree with him. Why do you always sound so angry Den? Are we getting our wires crossed here?
    I'm just asking what your basis for disagreeing with the statement is. As I very easily see the logic he is using, and you basically just quoted him and said you disagreed with him.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    It is political thought Den,it does not have to make sense for everyone. why we have factions,even in political groups. Moderate,liberal,and conservative republicans,same for the Dems.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Political thought still has a basis in reason, or at least it should instead of being more a tribalist thing, but even then we should still expect justifications for a belief when having a discussion on the subject.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by Denarius View Post
    I'm just asking what your basis for disagreeing with the statement is. As I very easily see the logic he is using, and you basically just quoted him and said you disagreed with him.
    Ah right. I think he's starting in the wrong place... democracy as practised now has departed a long way from its classical origins.
    He also seems to think that all communism is a bad thing - but it really depends on one's definition of it. I mean 'soft communism'??
    I also think he generalises about 'the history of ideas' - it's such an enormous subject and he is acting as though he has a monopoly on it.

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    I am thinking,it is going to be a "Long,hot summer"

    I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
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    Somewhat like Hunter S. Thompson who was called a gonzo Journalist,I consider myself to be something of a gonzo Pagan.

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    It is interesting that humans seem to believe that they are the crown of creation,until nature drops a house on them....Just saying....

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Yeah, 1968 all over again.

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    Nixon had the grace to resign before things got nasty,and Ford allowed him the path to just fade away.
    I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
    Mark Twain

    Somewhat like Hunter S. Thompson who was called a gonzo Journalist,I consider myself to be something of a gonzo Pagan.

    The wizard be in: But be warned if you poke him to much,the standard wand of anal probing +10 may be utilized.

    It is interesting that humans seem to believe that they are the crown of creation,until nature drops a house on them....Just saying....

    I have decided that I no longer want to be an adult... If anyone needs me, I'll be in my blanket fort, coloring.

    Trust lost,is trust never regained.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    Nixon had the grace
    Never thought those words would go together, but compared to what's going on now, they strangely do.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    Nixon had the grace to resign before things got nasty,and Ford allowed him the path to just fade away.
    Nixon resigned after Congressional leaders informed he could leave office willingly or be removed by force. Trump isn't under that threat yet. Granted he probably won't handle it with grace if he gets there but he hasn't completed the journey to Nixonhood yet.
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