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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    I would think not,BUT that is a VERY good question JUNI
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper View Post
    Question, and there isn't really much logic behind it but I'm curious. If someone's impeached or has resigned, are they eligible to run for presidency again next time an election comes up? Not that I'd have any hopes of that person winning.
    To answer your question, no person that is ineligible to run for president.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper View Post
    Question, and there isn't really much logic behind it but I'm curious. If someone's impeached or has resigned, are they eligible to run for presidency again next time an election comes up? Not that I'd have any hopes of that person winning.
    In case of resignation, it mostly depends on other requirements. You resign during your first term, maybe. Second, probably not.

    In the case of impeachment, it depends on how pissed off Congress is. The relevant text is mostly in

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitu...iclei#section3

    Note that I'm assuming that you're using impeachment to mean impeachment and conviction. The above link deals with the Senate's duties which are trying impeachment. The specific text for what you want is

    Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.
    Now, it's my understanding that Congress does not have to bar someone from public office upon removal but they have the power to do so. They just can't do anything more than remove and bar from public office.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    mainly after any negative departure,most all parties would NOT want to touch one who was so disposed.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Nixon resigned due to imminent impeachment. Andrew Johnson and Clinton were impeached but not convicted and completed their terms. Johnson was later elected and served as a senator.

    Impeachment does not entail removal from office, but a subsequent conviction would.

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    Impeachment is kind of similar to indictment. There appears to be enough evidence to charge, but it is not a conviction in and of itself.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    TO get elected you need MONEY,and the money people will not back a candidate who has the stink of scandal perhaps.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    TO get elected you need MONEY,and the money people will not back a candidate who has the stink of scandal perhaps.
    My counter to this assertion is sitting in the White House. My second counter is a man named Roy Moore who got re-elecfed to the Alabama Supreme Court after being ejected from it for defying a federal court order. Modern US politics aren't sane.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    agreed on both points.

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    this works for me.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    IT seems to have hit the fan.

    ‘It’s the only excuse they’ll need’: Legal blows fuel impeachment fears

    House worried that Cohen – with his unique access to Trump’s history of business dealings and scandalous personal entanglements – could ultimately prove more damaging to Trump, and give Democrats fodder for impeachment if they take the House in November. “It’s the only excuse they’ll need,” the lawyer said. “And believe me, they won’t need much of an excuse.”

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    man trump definately makes nixon seem like a really good president in comparison. I think or feel that this whole debacle is eventually gonna end up blowing up in his face because hes definately not saavy enough to pull this off like he thinks he is.

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