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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    I think part of the issue with the refugee situation here is that so many of them are using the "Change your ways for us!" In prior refugee situations conclaves were recognized and accepted and people made little what ever's but didn't expect the country to change their ways for them. Now the media or perhaps anti-media constantly pushes how they want our laws changed, holidays changed, ethics changed, etc to become acceptable to their ways. Sorry food pantries, doesn't fit our religious needs, change it. Instead of saying thank you when their are others that are in desperate straits as well.
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      Hmm. Thought so. So, let me explain...

      An asylum seeker is someone who has applied or is applying for asylum because he or she claims that to be returned to their place of origin would likely result in persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, political belief or membership of a particular social group.

      A refugee however has already applied for and obtained asylum. It can sometimes also be applied to someone who applies on the grounds of fleeing war, famine, tsunami, earthquake etc.

      An economic migrant is someone who legally or illegally goes to a country looking for work.
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        Originally posted by thalassa View Post
        The reality of stopping immigration is that there are very little pros and very many cons, including stagnation due to lack of diversity that makes a population less resilient and less innovative and able to deal with the complexity of the real world.
        Is anyone saying "stop immigration?" I'm just saying maintain our borders and enforce our laws or, at the absolute hardline, repeal the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and end (or modify so as to exclude the children of illegal immigrants from benefiting from) birthright citizenship.

        America developed space flight without the scope or breadth of mass immigration we are seeing now, I think we'll be fine.
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          I found this article very on-point as to how things have gotten where they are.

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            Thank you for that serious and truly concerned link Hawk.
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              Originally posted by Denarius View Post
              repeal the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and end (or modify so as to exclude the children of illegal immigrants from benefiting from) birthright citizenship.
              Err, define "birthright citizenship". I mean this seriously by the way. The way I read this line, ending birthright citizenship without a Constitutional Amendment will end in either

              A. The nearest Federal Court reinstating it post haste or
              B. A Constitutional crisis when election time comes around and nobody is eligible to run for president because there are no natural born citizens...

              And I'm relatively sure you aren't advocating a Constitutional crisis...
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                Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
                Err, define "birthright citizenship"
                Specifically having jus soli as the standard as opposed to jus sanguinis, or less broadly something to the effect of arguments put forward here.

                Bills have been introduced from time to time in Congress which have sought to declare American-born children of foreign nationals not to be "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States", and thus not entitled to citizenship via the 14th Amendment, unless at least one parent was an American citizen or a lawful permanent resident.

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                Some legislators, unsure whether such Acts of Congress would survive court challenges, have proposed that the Citizenship Clause be changed through a constitutional amendment. Senate Joint Resolution 6, introduced on January 16, 2009 in the 111th Congress, proposes such an amendment; however, neither this, nor any other proposed amendment, has yet been approved by Congress for ratification by the states.
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                  Originally posted by Denarius View Post
                  America developed space flight without the scope or breadth of mass immigration we are seeing now, I think we'll be fine.
                  Two words: Operation Paperclip




                  Also, the space race and the Cold War were major pushes for Indian immigration.

                  Besides, the highest rate of immigration in the US occurred at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century.
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                    Sean Spicer just said that Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons. Then of course he tried to backpedal. OMG. Happy Passover, everyone. The amount of unpreparedness in this administration is mind-boggling.
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                      Mustard gas?...or did that end with ww1..even so mention Zyklon-B????
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                        Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                        Mustard gas?...or did that end with ww1..even so mention Zyklon-B????
                        Zyklon-B. The pathetic Spicer stated that "Even Hitler didn't use poison gas on his own people," which is historically way wrong, unless you consider the mass murder of German Jews by gas as not an attack on his own people.

                        'Course, The Spiceman had to walk it back... "Duh! You know what I mean! He didn't drop it from planes!"

                        If somebody in this administrarion were competent at speaking his/her native language these silly babelfarts would stop happening... Like when tRump stated that immigration raids would be "military operations," which OBVIOUSLY meant "with military-like precision."
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                          Looky me! I'm a press secretary!
                          I mean, do they even research their own job descriptions and qualifications? It's like Trump is like looky here boys, let's have a drink and get on in here and just I dunno, do stuff and press buttons.

                          I'm seriously terrified. I'd be ok if I hated these people because they were evil. I don't think that. I am in fear because they are effing dumber than a box of rocks. I mean. Jesus Christ. Be mean. Be evil. Be the opposite of what I agree with. Don't just be so damn stupid. It's literally terrifying.

                          Take a look at his cabinet. It's like he went through his rolodex and just picked people. Like seriously half of them...look....Ben Carson. He's black. Urban. Housing. Close enough. Case closed.

                          God damn it dumb people.
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                            LOL - hey! Calm down! We live in wonderous times when the highest qualification for massively important jobs is to be completely incompetent. I'm applying for jobs as a brain surgeon, currently. I'm as unqualified as it is possible to be, so I expect to be wildly successful.
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                              Re: They are willing to destroy this country

                              My observation is that literally every president the U.S. takes on is hated by a decent portion of the population and loved by another. One cries apocalypse the other cries redeemer. Some people think it's a descent into fascism or sharia and another thinks it's an ascent into a greater America. My opinion is that this administration will come to pass with little manifested ill effect. Also this last race was a gong show and the democrats definitely used their hold on the media and their press machine to generate lots of fear and propaganda over Trump. And it became more of an issue of personalities and sensationalism than it was about the major issues. Additionally Hillary's campaign elected Trump, they generated a lot of the following for Trump by polarizing the nation with a lot of their divisive statements made towards Trump followers. Calling them deplorable etc. And she also had a criminal scandal and a lot of lies under her belt, she was absolutely no angel. Now people think they have the Anti-Christ in the white house and that they missed out on their pant-suit laden messiah. It's almost ridiculous in general in my opinion.

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                                Re: They are willing to destroy this country

                                No president is that radically different from another. Mass deportation and bombing children were modus operandi under the Obama administration. If Clinton was President, Syria would still be getting bombed. The two sided nature of U.S. politics is mostly an illusion. Both are right wing parties that serve the interests of capital and furthering U.S. influence.

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                                That being said Trump is still racist human garbage.

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