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    Re: Platonic Realism

    one thing is always true,no matter how much incense you burn around it, BS is always BS.
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    Re: Platonic Realism

    Quote Originally Posted by saura View Post
    Taoism and Jainism fail to acknowledge the existence of an omnipotent anthropomorphic being which Plato identifies with the GOOD or The Sun.
    I'm a little late to the party — delurking after a year or so — but I can't resist this one. Exactly where does Plato equate the Good and the Sun. In Republic 6.508 he says that the Sun stands in relation to visible things as the Good does no inteligables; not that they are the same. And where does he say that the Good is an "omnipotent anthropomorphic being"?

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    Re: Platonic Realism

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidMcCann View Post
    I'm a little late to the party — delurking after a year or so — but I can't resist this one. Exactly where does Plato equate the Good and the Sun. In Republic 6.508 he says that the Sun stands in relation to visible things as the Good does no inteligables; not that they are the same.
    Read here:
    The Symbolism of the Sun and Light in the Republic of Plato. II

    And where does he say that the Good is an "omnipotent anthropomorphic being"?
    The Demiurge is an anthropomorphic being.

    Read here:
    The Good or The Demiurge: Causation and the Unity of Good in Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanRave View Post
    Wait so all you're saying is "My religion is true, therefore others are false." That is the least useful explanation ever.

    What about Satanism? How can you disprove that what I have seen and experienced is false, even though you have no way of disproving my own internal knowledge? You can try to explain it, of course, just as Christianity explained many psychiatric problems with possession.

    All you're saying that if you are a follower of your religion, then you have to consider all others as false.

    Astrology doesn't accurately predict nothing, as life isn't predictable. Maybe you can guess a possible outcome based on probability, but I don't believe in fate nor destiny, only the chaos and rules that govern it.

    Who documented rain rituals? On what basis?

    The article about yoga, at the very end, claims scientific proof without really citing any of the findings, that is fishy enough for me to disregard the whole thing as unverifiable.

    I don't know man, you say the truth will come out eventually, so why bother trying to spread it?
    The beauty of the doctrine of Emanationism is that we can identify where each god exists in the hierarchy. I cannot really disprove ones experience of something unless they somehow manifest those experiences onto the visible world. For ex: the raptures of Saint Teresa of Avila.

    If your Satan is just one of the gods in an hierarchy of heavens then it is quite easy to prove that he is not the original creator of the Cosmos.

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    Re: Platonic Realism

    Quote Originally Posted by saura View Post

    If your Satan is just one of the gods in an hierarchy of heavens then it is quite easy to prove that he is not the original creator of the Cosmos.
    How do you prove such a hierarchy exists in the first place?
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    I am wondering just why this line of reasoning should be a path to anything enlightening. Seems circler only.
    I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
    Mark Twain

    Somewhat like Hunter S. Thompson who was called a gonzo Journalist,I consider myself to be something of a gonzo Pagan.

    The wizard be in: But be warned if you poke him to much,the standard wand of anal probing +10 may be utilized.

    It is interesting that humans seem to believe that they are the crown of creation,until nature drops a house on them....Just saying....

    I have decided that I no longer want to be an adult... If anyone needs me, I'll be in my blanket fort, coloring.

    Trust lost,is trust never regained.

    http://www.paganforum.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=186&dateline=1330020104

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    Re: Platonic Realism

    kind of like this.

    I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
    Mark Twain

    Somewhat like Hunter S. Thompson who was called a gonzo Journalist,I consider myself to be something of a gonzo Pagan.

    The wizard be in: But be warned if you poke him to much,the standard wand of anal probing +10 may be utilized.

    It is interesting that humans seem to believe that they are the crown of creation,until nature drops a house on them....Just saying....

    I have decided that I no longer want to be an adult... If anyone needs me, I'll be in my blanket fort, coloring.

    Trust lost,is trust never regained.

    http://www.paganforum.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=186&dateline=1330020104

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