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    Natural food? Good for ya?

    The idea of "natural" (food, living, acting) is one of those things that is always in the air.

    The problem, though, is that, despite the subjective belief that "natural" has a meaning, the word is, essentially, void of meaning.

    The truth is that what natural means, and whether natural is good for a person, is highly complex. Consider this article:

    What are natural foods?

    That is why even natural carb sources such as potatoes (also honey and maple syrup) may be less healthy for most people today than ‘artificial’ nearly-zero-calorie sweeteners in diet sodas, such as aspartame or saccharin. Aspartame and saccharin are human-created chemicals that artificially replace real carbs, which are calorie-rich. (Regarding the worry that artificial sweeteners put you at risk of cancer, the chances are actually vanishingly small. Your risk of disease from carb overload from foods such as sugared sodas, on the other hand, is astonishingly high, whether the carbs are natural, like honey, or unnatural, like table sugar.) So given our unnaturally high levels of calories, and given our unnaturally low levels of exercise, you may well minimise risks to your health by choosing artificial diet soda rather than naturally honey-sweetened soda because the diet soda doesn’t add still more calories to your diet. Too many calories is a major cause of death today: many people you know will die of diabetes or heart trouble, leading causes of which include our unnaturally calorie-rich diets.
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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    I always think its funny that our concept of "natural" is oh-so-very rooted in the theological (Christian) meaning of the word...

    Anything that exists as a result of natural processes or the function of biological organisms is, in all technicality, "natural," though in practice we put a very JPS definition* on it.



    * from the SCOTUS Justice Potter Stewart, who coined the "I know it when I see it" term for the difference between porn and art
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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    Check out this book if you can.

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    Title"indian givers"

    Good book about the many things Native americans have given us,much helped bring knowledge to farming,in fact Indians used manure"in the form of guano" bird and bat droppings,before this most of Europe did nothing to renew the land,and burned out a lot of farms. helping to lead to the french revolution when the wheat based food chain failed.,"let them eat cake,when they have no bread."

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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    Natural is void of meaning for me as well. Nature is all and all is nature. It's like a synonym of "possible" for me.

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    organic was also kind of a made up word as well. had,or did not have any legal meaning.
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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    I've always liked the term "natural flavor." Can you just go pick some flavor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pillar View Post
    I've always liked the term "natural flavor." Can you just go pick some flavor?
    Chicken. Everything tastes like chicken.

    Except turkey. Turkey tastes like flamingo.
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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    there is a lot of garbage food out there right now. im on a fixed income and it kinda sucks because that shitty food tends to be way more affordable. But i feel so much better when i eat healty and natural..all those man made chemicals and genetically modified ingredients..it pisses me off too because good food shouldnt be a luxury imho. i plan on starting a garden next year and i already supliment my diet with things i forage from the forest like mushrooms and berries and I hunt and fish a lot (wild game meat is waaay healthier then that lame ass factory farm meat thats all pumped with hormones and you can tell a difference in the tast and texture of meat from an animal that actually gets excercise--guess what? its dramatically better).

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    there is a lot of garbage food out there right now. im on a fixed income and it kinda sucks because that shitty food tends to be way more affordable. But i feel so much better when i eat healty and natural..all those man made chemicals and genetically modified ingredients..it pisses me off too because good food shouldnt be a luxury imho. i plan on starting a garden next year and i already supliment my diet with things i forage from the forest like mushrooms and berries and I hunt and fish a lot (wild game meat is waaay healthier then that lame ass factory farm meat thats all pumped with hormones and you can tell a difference in the tast and texture of meat from an animal that actually gets excercise--guess what? its dramatically better).

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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    It all depends on what you eat. I believe in moderation. Too much of something isn't good. You have to balance what you eat. It's all about moderation.

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    Re: Natural food? Good for ya?

    ...smallpox is natural.
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