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    Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    I've gotten into a group called "The Circle of Eight Oracle". Went through mostly all of the exercises, and got myself initiated as the third oracle. I left in the past out of deep fear and anxiety. It lead me to believe that I joined a dangerous cult that was trying to control me. When I came back, its as if they were expecting me to come back. It was kind of scary. They told me the third oracle cannot be replaced. I try leaving once again and get told, Rest assured the Second Oracle quite some time ago saw that you would be replaced by a more mature version of you. Most of us have two or more Souls incarnated from our Spirits at any given time. Your other self will join us when the time is right. Good bye



    I feel like I am in a psychological prism. My mind isn't quite sure what to believe now. Here is the link to the website in case many of you are curious: https://www.circleofeightoracles.com/

    What do you think I should do, in this situation? I keep getting told, "the circle has been broken for many ages. If you aren't with us now, we can keep waiting." This really adds to my anxiety and paranoia. I have many issues, I have to deal with in this life. Please help me! I don't know what to do right now!

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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    what is it you expect here?
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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    what is it you expect here?

    At the forum site? I just like to learn and ask questions. It is a learning experience for me. What does this have to do with my post?

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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    you must make enough posts to be able to post a link. see forum rules
    Last edited by anunitu; 13 Dec 2018 at 12:15.
    MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

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    NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
    don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    Truthfully it sounds like the typical pseudo-hype you find at many new age sites trying to sell the "We Are Old" and "We Know All About You" hype. Not to forget the "We're one big group or family" connection I used to see all the time. About the only aspect you seem to be missing is the Oath Bound material that you have to swear never to reveal to outsiders.

    Not sure what you expect anyone here to say though. You yourself admit you went through enough of the system to gain some level of recognition then left only to come back. Which would suggest it didn't scare you that much, you went back. To me that action alone would say you were interested, and I'd think it would tell whomever is in charge there your still interested and probably will come back again as well. They basically gave you a "Until we meet again" send off based upon what you wrote.

    Coming here seem's to be asking us to go there and either confirm your fears or renounce your fears so you feel better about which ever final conclusion you come to. Either way placing the decision on us vice placing it upon your own shoulders. Yet the actual facing of the fear and situation has to be yours and yours alone along with any weighting of cause and effect.

    Sorry, no group is impossible to leave. A cyber group is especially easy to leave, simply walk out and erase the address. A physical group might be a bit more problematic but again still not impossible. I highly doubt this group is going to stalk you or chase after you in the physical. So most likely it's a matter of your own will power and personal resolve and strength.

    In which case non of us here can guide or aid you in that either, that's something you have to look inside for and discover.
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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    as always monsno very nice take at first blush
    MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

    all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
    NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
    don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    Quote Originally Posted by pragon View Post
    I've gotten into a group called "The Circle of Eight Oracle". Went through mostly all of the exercises, and got myself initiated as the third oracle. I left in the past out of deep fear and anxiety. It lead me to believe that I joined a dangerous cult that was trying to control me. When I came back, its as if they were expecting me to come back. It was kind of scary. They told me the third oracle cannot be replaced. I try leaving once again and get told, Rest assured the Second Oracle quite some time ago saw that you would be replaced by a more mature version of you. Most of us have two or more Souls incarnated from our Spirits at any given time. Your other self will join us when the time is right. Good bye



    I feel like I am in a psychological prism. My mind isn't quite sure what to believe now. Here is the link to the website in case many of you are curious:
    https://www.circleofeightoracles.com/

    What do you think I should do, in this situation? I keep getting told, "the circle has been broken for many ages. If you aren't with us now, we can keep waiting." This really adds to my anxiety and paranoia. I have many issues, I have to deal with in this life. Please help me! I don't know what to do right now!



    In the ancient times when the earth a stars were in harmony with the Tao, the masters taught a technique for dealing with events such as this. But time passed, the harmony fell into disorder, the masters passed out of the realm, and the technique was lost to all but a few. I am one of those few - an inheritor of the lost wisdom. I shall teach it to you. Listen carefully, for great wisdom is subtle!

    Walk away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragon View Post
    I've gotten into a group called "The Circle of Eight Oracle". Went through mostly all of the exercises, and got myself initiated as the third oracle. I left in the past out of deep fear and anxiety. It lead me to believe that I joined a dangerous cult that was trying to control me. When I came back, its as if they were expecting me to come back. It was kind of scary. They told me the third oracle cannot be replaced. I try leaving once again and get told, Rest assured the Second Oracle quite some time ago saw that you would be replaced by a more mature version of you. Most of us have two or more Souls incarnated from our Spirits at any given time. Your other self will join us when the time is right. Good bye



    I feel like I am in a psychological prism. My mind isn't quite sure what to believe now. Here is the link to the website in case many of you are curious:
    https://www.circleofeightoracles.com/

    What do you think I should do, in this situation? I keep getting told, "the circle has been broken for many ages. If you aren't with us now, we can keep waiting." This really adds to my anxiety and paranoia. I have many issues, I have to deal with in this life. Please help me! I don't know what to do right now!



    In the ancient times when the earth a stars were in harmony with the Tao, the masters taught a technique for dealing with events such as this. But time passed, the harmony fell into disorder, the masters passed out of the realm, and the technique was lost to all but a few. I am one of those few - an inheritor of the lost wisdom. I shall teach it to you. Listen carefully, for great wisdom is subtle!

    Walk away.
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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    I wish I could offer you some help; it sounds like you aren't in a good situation, but I don't think the information you've given is enough to offer any advice. Why do you feel it's impossible to leave this group? Why did you go back when your instincts originally told you to leave? Why are you putting so much belief into what this group is telling you? I'm trying to understand, but I find this post to be very confusing.

    It sounds like to me that you don't like this group and it doesn't put you in a good place mentally... Why would you want to stay with them?


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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    If you don't trust them, walk.
    If you don't like them, walk.
    If you find cheap headgames to be as annoying as I do, walk

    If they're content to wait and you don't want to be there, then let them wait.

    What you're describing from them can be uncharitably called cheap-*** headgames. The great thing about cheap*** headgames is that they don't work if you don't play along.

    Now if they stop being content to wait indefinitely (by which, I mean "till the Sun stops burning") and start harrassing you in some way then other steps can be taken to reinforce the value of civility but right now....

    Walk and don't look back.
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    Re: Anyone ever feel stuck with a group, as if its impossible to leave?

    Sounds to me like some serious cult warning signs.
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