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    Re-enactment - the Civil War

    Thought I would post this link showing Civil War re-enactment in England - and not the English Civil Wars (we managed to have two!) but the American one.



    Anyway, thought some of you might be interested!
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    Cool!!

    I'll have to send the link to my hubby!
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      Originally posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
      Thought I would post this link showing Civil War re-enactment in England - and not the English Civil Wars (we managed to have two!) but the American one.
      That's fantastic, but I wonder why? It's not like the UK lacks historical battles of their own to reenact. I grew up attending Civil War reenactments with my dad, good times.
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        That's cool....and quite odd. You don't even see civil war re-enactment much in Canada (at least not on the West Coast), and most people aren't too bothered about it (Canadians tend to be more interested in WWII, and sometimes the War of 1812, because of the burning down the White House thing).

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          I just thought it was a bit unusual, so I thought I would share it. As OpenHands said, the UK has its fair share of battles etc., to choose from. For a small island it was always fighting someone or other. I mean, even with just the Hundred Years War (yes, really) there must be plenty of choice.....
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            Maybe because a lot of those were a long time ago, and WWI and WWII were too scary and recent?

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              There's quite a robust Roman and Medieval re-enactment tradition here. You could be right about WW1 and WW2 though. Mr Penry's grandfather used to be an ARP (Air Raid) Warden. Armed only with a bucket of water and a stirrup pump he was sent out every night to face the wrath of the Luftwaffe on a welsh mountainside.

              Elderly people still talk about him standing there, all alone, shaking his first at the sky as the bombers flew low overhead and shouting 'Come down here, Herman you b****** and fight like a man!'
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                Originally posted by OpenHands View Post
                That's fantastic, but I wonder why? It's not like the UK lacks historical battles of their own to reenact. I grew up attending Civil War reenactments with my dad, good times.
                I'm not surprised at this at all.
                Many solders that fought in the Civil War were recently from Ireland, Scotland and England, as well as from many other European countries. I know of a few battles that consisted of Irish soldiers fighting for the Union or Confederate army's depending where they had settled after arriving here. Sometimes they found themselves fighting each other head to head. I'm sure at least some of the re-inactors had relatives who fought in that war.
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                  Originally posted by OpenHands View Post
                  That's fantastic, but I wonder why? It's not like the UK lacks historical battles of their own to reenact. I grew up attending Civil War reenactments with my dad, good times.
                  Historical reenactment tends to be more about history in general than one's own history. Different people have different periods of history that they enjoy that transcends national borders...here in the US we have everything from Vikings to pirates to ren faires, to WWI and WWII reenactors (Scott and I have been talking about being Soviets as WWII reenactors)

                  The Civil War tends to attract world wide re-enactors (even in Canada, some Canadians reenact with northern US units of both sides, but Canada has its own ACW society as well--its probably easy not to notice when one is in a more populated area, you need some space...reenactments tend to be outside of urban areas when there are good rural areas to put them in) because it is at one of the margins of history...in terms of warfare, it is one of the last wars with Napoleonic-style tactics and one of the first with modern weaponry. Plus (as expensive as a ACW kit is for a reenactor), its cheaper than a tank...

                  ...and I think there still is some romanticism about the era--its easier to pretend that the ACW was about glory and honor in some ways, and being that it *is* so far away, its easier to confront the ugliness of it as a war--there was no color photography or film of the Civil War.
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                    Here are the download pages on Archives . org for free e-book of the 10-volume set of collected photographs of the armies, battle sites, and devastation of the U.S. Civil War.

                    The photographic history of the Civil war (Volume 1) http://www.archive.org/details/photo...chis01lanigoog

                    The photographic history of the Civil war (Volume 2) http://www.archive.org/details/photographichist02inmill

                    The photographic history of the Civil war (Volume 3) http://www.archive.org/details/photo...chis23lanigoog

                    The photographic history of the Civil war (Volume 4) http://www.archive.org/details/photographichist04inmill

                    The Photographic History of the Civil War ... (Volume 5) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic05franrich

                    The Photographic History of the Civil War ... (Volume 6) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic06franrich

                    The Photographic History of the Civil War ... (Volume 7) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic07franrich

                    The Photographic History of the Civil War ... (Volume 8) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic08franrich

                    The photographic history of the Civil war (Volume 9) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic09franrich

                    The photographic history of the civil war.. (Volume 10) http://www.archive.org/details/mille...phic10franrich
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                      Originally posted by OpenHands View Post
                      That's fantastic, but I wonder why? It's not like the UK lacks historical battles of their own to reenact.
                      What an odd question. I re-enact the Iron Age Celts in Upstate NY because *I'm interested in them*, why should the English be any different regarding the ACW? Re-enacting doesn't follow the original geographic boundaries.

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                      Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                      That's cool....and quite odd. You don't even see civil war re-enactment much in Canada (at least not on the West Coast), and most people aren't too bothered about it (Canadians tend to be more interested in WWII, and sometimes the War of 1812, because of the burning down the White House thing).
                      Oh, it's a definitely a coastal thing. There are a number of Canadian ACW groups that come down into Upstate NY for events. Or at least they did until the gas prices started creeping up.
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                        Originally posted by Monk View Post
                        I'm not surprised at this at all.
                        Many solders that fought in the Civil War were recently from Ireland, Scotland and England, as well as from many other European countries. I know of a few battles that consisted of Irish soldiers fighting for the Union or Confederate army's depending where they had settled after arriving here. Sometimes they found themselves fighting each other head to head. I'm sure at least some of the re-inactors had relatives who fought in that war.
                        Ah, I hadn't considered that for some there might be a familial connection. Very cool, thanks!

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                        Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                        Historical reenactment tends to be more about history in general than one's own history. Different people have different periods of history that they enjoy that transcends national borders...here in the US we have everything from Vikings to pirates to ren faires, to WWI and WWII reenactors (Scott and I have been talking about being Soviets as WWII reenactors)

                        The Civil War tends to attract world wide re-enactors (even in Canada, some Canadians reenact with northern US units of both sides, but Canada has its own ACW society as well--its probably easy not to notice when one is in a more populated area, you need some space...reenactments tend to be outside of urban areas when there are good rural areas to put them in) because it is at one of the margins of history...in terms of warfare, it is one of the last wars with Napoleonic-style tactics and one of the first with modern weaponry. Plus (as expensive as a ACW kit is for a reenactor), its cheaper than a tank...

                        ...and I think there still is some romanticism about the era--its easier to pretend that the ACW was about glory and honor in some ways, and being that it *is* so far away, its easier to confront the ugliness of it as a war--there was no color photography or film of the Civil War.
                        Thank you for correcting me, I hadn't considered all of those factors. You and a bunch of others here have some impressive knowledge on this topic.

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                        [QUOTE=Gobae;45943]What an odd question. I re-enact the Iron Age Celts in Upstate NY because *I'm interested in them*, why should the English be any different regarding the ACW? Re-enacting doesn't follow the original geographic boundaries.[COLOR="Silver"]

                        ...I'm...sorry for my ignorance? *blinks* Anyway, that's great that you have such an interesting hobby. Are your reenactments part of the SCA?
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                          Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                          The Civil War tends to attract world wide re-enactors (even in Canada, some Canadians reenact with northern US units of both sides, but Canada has its own ACW society as well--its probably easy not to notice when one is in a more populated area, you need some space...reenactments tend to be outside of urban areas when there are good rural areas to put them in) because it is at one of the margins of history...in terms of warfare, it is one of the last wars with Napoleonic-style tactics and one of the first with modern weaponry. Plus (as expensive as a ACW kit is for a reenactor), its cheaper than a tank...
                          Yeah I'm from Vancouver Island, so lots of open, empty space, but I think there just isn't the interest. Maybe slightly too cut off? Even though the Island is big (there are several cities on it, including the capital of the province) because it's an Island you get this "Island" mentality, and when I'm there I really notice the feeling of "separateness" from the rest of the world. And I doubt the nearby Lower Mainland has much space that isn't currently being used by film studios, resorts or hoards of tourists :P
                          Or maybe the forests are just -too- dense. It's an area known as "temperate rainforest" and the underbrush is crazy thick (and often thorny!).

                          I think people have the money to do such things...there's a lot of money in coastal BC, and people take up crazy expensive hobbies like hiking, skiing, boating (there are even massive yacht clubs everywhere) but I guess it's just not a great location and/or people are a bit indifferent.

                          I think it's really cool though! The costumes are amazing. People do a lot of Gold Rush type stuff and there's a provincially supported theater group that does reenactments of Queen Victoria's reign (my friend used to play young Victoria) but that just seems kind of boring (but maybe because I'm used to it).

                          I could see it working out in Ontario or Quebec though. Or the Prairies in the summer! I think also because it's closer to that side of the US....Back home it's also just really far away and you kind of get a feeling sometimes that the West is almost its own country.

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                            Originally posted by OpenHands View Post
                            ...I'm...sorry for my ignorance? *blinks* Anyway, that's great that you have such an interesting hobby. Are your reenactments part of the SCA?
                            Sorry if I came off sounding harsh, that was not my intent.

                            Yes, re-enacting and going further by doing "experimental archaeology" is a fantastic hobby. It's greatly increased my understanding of the Iron Age Celts in ways that just aren't possible by reading about them in a book.

                            No, we're not part of the SCA. The SCA is a quasi-Medieval group and the Medieval era happens roughly 800-1200 years after the era we portray. Also the SCA's rules and structure are only loosely based in history. In short, the SCA is not conducive to doing the living history and research of the Iron Age Celts.
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                              That's pretty cool! There are lots of groups like that in Europe, and also various periods up to the Renaissance.

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