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    The boy who died

    I couldn't think of a short enough or witty enough title. It should really read:

    "Boy Who Died Locked in Cage Wrote About Wanting His Family to Like Him"
    I know we've all read about horrific stories about children who are abused or get locked away in their parent's basement. But this story just hit such a sour note with me I had to post it.

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    I have a few choice thoughts about these people and the whole situation. Those who think being a parent is a right might want to just drift their asses right on out of this thread. It's a privilege you should earn.
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    this is sick... ugh... i dont have strong enough words to describe how i feel... ugh... this is so incredibly wrong!! and noone could do shit for this poor little boy!! UGH
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      I don't know how people do things like this. It just goes so beyond cruelty that it makes me sick.

      It reminds me of a book (a memoir, so true story) called "A Child Called It." Luckily that boy got out into foster care and lived to be able to write his memoir, but not all children do.

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        Humans are one of my least favorite species and stories like this are why.
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          Duw, Medusa, those are terrible stories. And there must be hundreds, thousands more whose stories are never even told. And in some ways that#s the most terrifying realisation of all.

          Thanks for reminding us.
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            People like this are the reason why I don't think the death penalty should be eradicated. Or how about the parents of Briana Lopez?
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              Exactly Thal...I think that most people who try to get rid of the death penalty forget just what monsters human beings can become. Some people do things horrific enough to suspend their natural rights. The death penalty seems almost charitable at that point.
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                As someone who doesn't believe in the death penalty (especially having grown up and live in two countries that don't have it) I think we could make exceptions for cases like this.

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                  Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                  As someone who doesn't believe in the death penalty (especially having grown up and live in two countries that don't have it) I think we could make exceptions for cases like this.

                  You know, Danie, I'm thinking there's something in what you just said worth pointing out: most people who do support the death penalty don't support it for every poor soul dumb enough, or angry enough, or poor enough to land in prison. It's not "you stole a loaf of bread...off with your head!". It's because there are a select few who's actions are beyond terrible. It is obvious that they did the deed in question, they have no remorse, and are unfit to ever be among other human beings again. That is what support of the death penalty is supposed to be about. Those creatures. The ones that in any other day and age probably would have been strung up before law enforcement even got there.
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                    Originally posted by DeseretRose View Post
                    You know, Danie, I'm thinking there's something in what you just said worth pointing out: most people who do support the death penalty don't support it for every poor soul dumb enough, or angry enough, or poor enough to land in prison. It's not "you stole a loaf of bread...off with your head!". It's because there are a select few who's actions are beyond terrible. It is obvious that they did the deed in question, they have no remorse, and are unfit to ever be among other human beings again. That is what support of the death penalty is supposed to be about. Those creatures. The ones that in any other day and age probably would have been strung up before law enforcement even got there.
                    Yeah I'm aware of that

                    I just meant that I don't support it in general, but I think it could have a place in very extreme circumstances. Like in the case of political leaders who have committed genocide, and not just murderers but the case of murderers who have tortured their victims (like in this case).

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                      Reading about all the children who suffered makes me glad that I believe in an afterlife where monsters who do this are completely wiped out of existence(seriously, who in their right mind does this?) Justice in this world isn't enough sometimes.
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                        Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                        Yeah I'm aware of that

                        I just meant that I don't support it in general, but I think it could have a place in very extreme circumstances. Like in the case of political leaders who have committed genocide, and not just murderers but the case of murderers who have tortured their victims (like in this case).
                        Heh...I figured you felt that way. I was referring more to people in general. Whenever we have debates about this on here, there always seems to be at least one person who implies that to kill the person in question makes someone as bad as they are. I'm not so sure...like you mention torture...no one brutalizes the killer for months leading up to their death. So it's not exactly "an eye for an eye" we're talking about.

                        Whatever the case, it might sound a little odd but child murders like these are one of the things that make me wonder the most about reincarnation or some other system. How could a child who was beaten and harmed their entire short life have learned anything in this life but pain and suffering? If it was up to me somehow, I'd want them to have another chance at a more normal existence. But that's probably wishful thinking as much as anything.
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                          Originally posted by Caelia View Post
                          Reading about all the children who suffered makes me glad that I believe in an afterlife where monsters who do this are completely wiped out of existence(seriously, who in their right mind does this?) Justice in this world isn't enough sometimes.
                          Never been a fan of oblivion or eternal hells but I will say that certain entities should really hope that there is no justice after death. Past that, shoot the bastards responsible for this and let them find out first hand if there's a deity that avenges crimes committed against children. They have no place in society and provided that their guilt is absutely certain, I have very few problems with capital punishment.
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                            Originally posted by DeseretRose View Post
                            Heh...I figured you felt that way. I was referring more to people in general. Whenever we have debates about this on here, there always seems to be at least one person who implies that to kill the person in question makes someone as bad as they are. I'm not so sure...like you mention torture...no one brutalizes the killer for months leading up to their death. So it's not exactly "an eye for an eye" we're talking about.

                            Whatever the case, it might sound a little odd but child murders like these are one of the things that make me wonder the most about reincarnation or some other system. How could a child who was beaten and harmed their entire short life have learned anything in this life but pain and suffering? If it was up to me somehow, I'd want them to have another chance at a more normal existence. But that's probably wishful thinking as much as anything.
                            I believe in reincarnation, but I think there's some luck involved in it. If it was pure karma alone, then those born in unfortunate circumstances deserve it. I suppose some cultures believe that (at least traditionally...it's the whole belief behind the Caste system), but I don't. Like you, I also hope they have a better chance in another life.

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                              Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
                              Past that, shoot the bastards responsible for this and let them find out first hand if there's a deity that avenges crimes committed against children. They have no place in society and provided that their guilt is absutely certain, I have very few problems with capital punishment.
                              I'm for that too. I wonder if I can find out how they handled such things in Ancient Egypt. I know for certain tomb robbing was punished by execution without burial (pretty much a death sentence for the afterlife. The common man had a difficult enough time navigating the afterlife and destroying a body guaranteed there would be no afterlife for him / her), so I'll have to see what I find about harming children.


                              ADD: Looks like for the children who were killed they would maybe look at the death penalty according to this site: http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/...der/index.html
                              Last edited by Caelia; 08 Jul 2011, 07:36.
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