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    Vaping like a viper

    I tried to quit smoking a few times, but the bottom line is this - I don't want to quit.

    I like smoking.
    I like the taste.
    I like the experience.
    I like the feeling.
    I like having something to do with my hands when I talk to people.

    I do not like:
    cancer
    emphysema
    burned out tastebuds or smell whatevers
    dry nose
    flem in the morning
    the stink
    the mess
    the cost
    being treated like a leper with STD's because I like doing something that other people do not approve of


    Fortunately, a friend of mine was able to suggest a solution...

    ecigs!

    I love these. I don't think I've discovered anything I like this much since puberty (OK - slight exageration. But still fun).

    The way they work, in case you are dreadfully last century, is this: My ecigs (Mistic, from Walmart $14 for a set) look like cigarettes. The "tube" which would normally hold the tobacco, is a rechargable battery. It screws into a little tube that looks like the filter, but which is actually a little device that holds ejuice (a mixture of nicotine, water, flavoring, and an oil).

    When I draw on the "filter" the battery starts, produces heat which vaporizes the ejuice - it doesn't burn - the liquid becomes a vapor - and I draw it into my mouth and lungs. Tastes great like a cigarette should!

    The carridges are replaced as needed (the package estimates that 1 cart. = 1 pack). When the carts are empty, they can be refilled with all kinds of flavored ejuice, which range from various tobacco flavors to girly drink flavors (I got one called "G Spot" that I'm dieing to try out...). You can even get ejuice without any nicotine, if you just want to enjoy - and I do mean enjoy, because the flavor really is much more enjoyable.

    And - no second hand smoke (it's water vapor), no clingy smell, nothing for people to rag on me about if I feel like Vaping in the car...

    And no burning means that 99% of the bad stuff is gone. This is the way all vices should work in the 21st century... I'm glad I've lived to do it - it feels so Star Trek - y.
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    I'll have to tell the hubby...he's trying to quit and has thought about using ecigs, but they are normally pretty pricey. He's tried to quit cold turkey, and it never works...he tried Chantix and was one of the people that has a really bad reaction to the meds. Since he's been back to working for the Navy, he is in an environment where at least 3/4 of the people smoke, and smoke breaks are pretty much the only recognized reason for a break. Plus the friend he's staying with right now (while the kids and I are in IL and he's looking for an apartment) smokes in his apartment... So its a bad time to quit, but he *says* he's down to ~4 cigs a day (which I'm pretty sure is his goal, but I'm also pretty sure he's fudging the numbers a bit. As long as he's down from the pack to pack and a half he was smoking before though, its at least an improvement. I think once he consistently gets down to his 4 cigarettes and he's not staying in a place where everyone smokes (since its pretty hard being a non-smoker in a place where a smoker lives and smokes inside) he's going to try Zyban. For him, he actually wants to quit--the kids (Sophie in particular) has picked up the "smoking is bad for your heath" thing and started in on him...nothing worse than your pre-schooler nagging you about bad habits.
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      #3
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      Originally posted by thalassa View Post
      For him, he actually wants to quit--the kids (Sophie in particular) has picked up the "smoking is bad for your heath" thing and started in on him...nothing worse than your pre-schooler nagging you about bad habits.
      They stop doing that when they develop their own bad habits...

      Seriously Thalassa, you really should have him give it a go. I was really confused by tha variety of ecigs out there, and the costs of some units (running from $40 up to a couple of hundred), but Walmart now sells a single battery and cart for $6, so he could try them out cheaply, then later buy a second battery and charger ($15) if he likes it. I gotta believe that the nicotine (ingested as vapor) is far less harmfully that Chantix, which has actually caused deaths.

      The experience isn't EXACTLY like smoking, so it takes a bit of getting used to, but once I did get used to it, I found that I like it better. I've taken a few pulls off my pipe since I started last week, and the ecig tastes better - I'm off the burning devil's weed completely now, and enjoying the devil's battery...

      Wifey still isn't too sure about it all, but she doesn't do change well. Let's see how it goes when the flavors come in the mail.
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        It's tempting me to start smoking, lol. Or vaporizing. I'm thinking I might get some for my other half - he quits & then picks the habit back up, and quits, and craves and whines about not smoking.
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          Originally posted by perzephone View Post
          It's tempting me to start smoking, lol. Or vaporizing.

          The cool people say "Vaping."

          You don't actually want to become a nicotine addict (although it's about as harmful as caffeine, from what I've read, unless you eat it). But Walmart (and other disocunt stores that carry Mistics) sell 0 nicotine cartridges, and you can get all the flavors without nicotine if you want to, so you and S.O. can vape your hearts out together in utterly decadent disregard for any health issues...

          But you still might get whining. See note regarding wifey in the previous post.
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            Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
            The cool people say "Vaping."

            You don't actually want to become a nicotine addict (although it's about as harmful as caffeine, from what I've read, unless you eat it).
            Eh, I'm already a nicotine addict - working in an older, not-so-well-ventilated casino will do that to you. I get really cranky on my vacations because I get separated from the second-hand smoke. Maybe I'll get some of the nicotine cartridges when I take my next vacation.
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              My husband starting using ecigs when I was pregnant. He only smoked when he went out to bars but he figured he may as well even give that up. Thing is...now he vapes all the time! So it can be addicting for sure! And I'm apparently the only person in the world that can smell the "second hand vape". It's not offensive, but if he tries to hide a drag from me, I can catch the whiff and call him out.

              They are far superior to "analog cigarettes" but they have made hubby smoke/vape MORE!
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                I totally love these, and everyone who uses them. I'm allergic to smoking and we don't really have a clear or enforced ban here, so there's a lot of smoking indoors and I really struggle when I go out with friends. But I went to a friends house and her friend had these and since there was no second hand smoke, it was totally fine. She got to smoke and I got to breath...everyone wins.

                I'm considering gifting some to all my smoker friends.

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                  They have e-joints as well. They are quite popular on a podcast I listen to daily.
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                    I use Vaping from time to time,haven't completly stopped smoking real smokes yet,but the E-cigs are good,I have one that is powered from a USB port,so no worrys about the battery,and great for my time at the computer.
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                      Just wanted to share something. I tried many times to quit but just never managed to fight the desire to smoke. Last August, I finally kicked the habit and I don't even crave now. I am being honest here. I tried to smoke at my sister's on Christmas day and had to give the cig to her after two puffs. It was vile. I'd tried NRT in the past and it wasn't a huge help. What worked this time is a little embarrassing. It was a hypnosis recording I found on Youtube! I know this isn't quite on topic, but I could dig out the recording if anyome else is interested in giving it a go.
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                        Originally posted by Madness View Post
                        My husband starting using ecigs when I was pregnant. He only smoked when he went out to bars but he figured he may as well even give that up. Thing is...now he vapes all the time! So it can be addicting for sure! And I'm apparently the only person in the world that can smell the "second hand vape". It's not offensive, but if he tries to hide a drag from me, I can catch the whiff and call him out.

                        They are far superior to "analog cigarettes" but they have made hubby smoke/vape MORE!
                        I've noticed this too. The thing is, though, that once you get past the thinking that says "smoking is bad for you" (since vaping is very very different from smoking - no burning), then, it's really no different from having a cup of coffee or bottle of coke with you when you are working or relaxing.

                        Does The Monarch refill his carts? Last night my flavored eJuice came, and it's really nice...

                        ---------- Post added at 09:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 AM ----------

                        Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                        She got to smoke and I got to breath...everyone wins.

                        I'm considering gifting some to all my smoker friends.
                        It really is a win/win. Not only does your friend get to smoke while you breath, she also eliminates more than 90% of the bad stuff. If you got a bunch of friends together, and gave them the ecigs, and had some of the flavored eJuices to try out, it could be a little party (get the zero nicotine for yourself!). They'd have fun, and thank you for it.

                        ---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 AM ----------

                        Originally posted by Medusa View Post
                        They have e-joints as well. They are quite popular on a podcast I listen to daily.
                        LOL - I've heard rumors of such things coming from foreign parts.

                        We just got a flyer at work today warning us to be on the lookout for the synthetics that are floating around. It's the return of reefer madness. You will go insane, and end up dead, if you touch one of these little bags...
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                          #13
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                          YAY!

                          My favorite flavors are watermelon and apple. The "tobacco" flavor just makes me want to smoke. And I CANNOT smoke, but vaping is fine according to my doctor.

                          I'm at the point I'm really only vaping at the computer and if on a long trip. Too many years of having a cig in my mouth and blazing through two packs while working.

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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                            Does The Monarch refill his carts? Last night my flavored eJuice came, and it's really nice...
                            He's tried both the refillable and the one-off ones. He certainly likes the refills better just because of less money, waste, having to go to the store (which is a whole half mile from us that sells like 50 flavors), etc. I do complain about some of the flavors though. The WORST was the blueberry. It was a one-off he got on a recent trip to New Orleans. Kinda cute - had a blue lighted tip instead of red. But it STANK. And of course, he wanted to vape in the car on the way home to Austin. The other people in the car couldn't smell it!
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                              LOL - weirdly, of the flavors I got, the one called "G Spot" (which I was laughing at) is my favorite. It tastes kind of like Bazooka bubble gum - you can even taste the powder they out on it - but on second tasting, there are some more subtle flavors in there with it. Normally, I wouldn't go for a bubble gum flavor, so this one was doubly surprising.

                              I'd probably have to drive to Cheboygan find flavors locally...
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