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    Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Druidry is my number one path but I have a great leaning towards Odin and Woden as well.

    is there any essential difference in the God concept here?

    can one be a druid, but have Woden as the God?

    and what is the difference between Woden and Odin anyway?


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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Quote Originally Posted by westwoden View Post
    Druidry is my number one path but I have a great leaning towards Odin and Woden as well.

    is there any essential difference in the God concept here?

    can one be a druid, but have Woden as the God?

    and what is the difference between Woden and Odin anyway?


    thanks
    It is my understanding that most druidic groups, allow for the choice of pantheon, within druidry. I spent some time trying to decide if the path of the druid was right for me, and did alot of research. That said there are alot of groups, so I thik it depends on who you are learning from, or whether you are going about it on your own. If you are doing this yourself, espouse whichever god you love.
    As for the differences between odin and wotan, that is far outside of my area of knowledge and I think that there are quite a few more qualified people to speak to that.

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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Firstly you must work out exactly what draws you towards Woden.... and to the Anglo-Saxons. What do you know so far, and how much have you read?

    Avoid quick fix answers - it's a long and difficult path (aren't they all?) and some of the info is a bit obscure. Tell me your understanding so far, what you hope to find, and what you've researched. Then I'll try and take it from there - I don't have all the answers, mind you. But I'll do my best to help you make a start.
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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Quote Originally Posted by westwoden View Post
    what is the difference between Woden and Odin anyway?
    The spelling and the pronounciation. It's the same God! Back before telephones and the internet language tended to have variations pretty much between one village and the next. This was even more the case when not much was written down. It's like the game Chinese whispers.

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    This isn't just a difference between villages though - Woden is Anglo-Saxon, Odin (with several variants) is Norse. Although the NOrsemen brought their traditions to England from the end of the 8th century - there may be similarities, but there are also difference between them.

    They may be descended from the same much earlier, perhaps proto-Germanic figure, but they aren't the same with difference spelling.

    Just as Diana and Artemis - although the Romans syncretised them - remain quite different in many ways.

    If the OP wants to follow the Anglo-Saxon way, it's very important to be quite clear about that. There are other cognates of Woden within the Anglo-Saxon world, but Odin was not one of them.
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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    ok, thanks for the replies, I''ll get busy researching.

    I seem to have made mulitple threads now by mistake so I"ll stick to the one in the main section now , Title: ('Woden/Odin/Cernunnos -are they the same'?)

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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
    This isn't just a difference between villages though - Woden is Anglo-Saxon, Odin (with several variants) is Norse. Although the NOrsemen brought their traditions to England from the end of the 8th century - there may be similarities, but there are also difference between them.

    They may be descended from the same much earlier, perhaps proto-Germanic figure, but they aren't the same with difference spelling.

    Just as Diana and Artemis - although the Romans syncretised them - remain quite different in many ways.

    If the OP wants to follow the Anglo-Saxon way, it's very important to be quite clear about that. There are other cognates of Woden within the Anglo-Saxon world, but Odin was not one of them.
    Next you'll be telling me that Venus isn't the same Goddess as Aphrodite. Changing the name and adding some extra mythology does not a new God/Goddess make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL!CE View Post
    Next you'll be telling me that Venus isn't the same Goddess as Aphrodite. Changing the name and adding some extra mythology does not a new God/Goddess make.

    You don't understand there was a difference between the Roman Diana and the Greek Artemis before they became syncretised?
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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
    You don't understand there was a difference between the Roman Diana and the Greek Artemis before they became syncretised?
    That might be, but saying Woden isn't Odin is like saying Jehovah isn't Yahweh.

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    A change in name reflects a different people not a different God.

    Your argument requires the gods to be completely man made, my argument requires them to be something more than that.

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    Re: Odinism v. Wodenism v. Druidry - help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
    You don't understand there was a difference between the Roman Diana and the Greek Artemis before they became syncretised?
    I'm a bit confused by this myself. You mention that Artemis and Diana, although syncretised, 'remain quite different in many ways.' From what I've seen though, these two actually had a lot more in common than they did differences... What were some of the differences?

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