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    Is it okay to think of the God and Goddess as metaphorical and represent nature rather than literal beings?
    Last edited by Greenlife; 30 May 2013, 16:42.

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    A rather large number of people do think of them that way so unless a divinity beats you over the head and says, "quit that and pay attention", go with what you think best.

    If a divinity does beat you over the head and demand that you listen, shrug, listen. It's less painful.
    life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

    "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

    John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

    "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

    Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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      #3
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      I do not see why that would be a problem, unless you get a spiritual slap like MaskedOne said.
      There is something pagan in me that I cannot shake off. In short, I deny nothing, but doubt everything. - Lord Byron

      Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher. -
      William Wordsworth

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        Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of HistoryPagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible
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          #5
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          I've learned that even if they knock you on the head, it's still your life. I'm guilty of given in and surrendering at times, but if you want to see them as purely archetypes, or give them up all together, and they don't like it (if you believe they exist) and they beat you down or throw obstacles in your way, that's their problem and are acting rather childish. There's no reason to give your life over to deity or pantheon no matter what, unless YOU want it that way. Be thankful for what you surmise they have given you, but if you want to be free of spiritual subjugation and faith, or just simply don't want to work under, with or for them and want to live your life the way you choose, so be it. It's your life, your choice.

          I'm not saying it's easy, but this way you know you hold the power in your hands.

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            #6
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            My spouse considers himself agnostic, if not outright atheist. He also pours out some beer or mead to Odin every Wednesday, and has had multiple interactions with him now.

            Some deities don't care if you believe in them or not.
            Great Grandmother's Kitchen

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              #7
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              Originally posted by Greenlife View Post
              Is it okay to think of the God and Goddess as metaphorical and represent nature rather than literal beings?
              Yes. A surprisingly large number of the people that kick-started Neopaganism in the 1960s were essentially atheists that viewed the gods as thoughtforms or Jungian archetypes. It was kinda the academic climate of the time.

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                I find that there is little difference between viewing a deity as physical, spiritual or metaphorical.. or as one side or another (as other religions choose to view their deities); in the end its rooted in your ideas, its a start or a finish; an idea of one sort or another. If more people understood that the basis of their view was the same as everyone else’s (a rooted idea they build upon), there would be far more unity in this world. Think what you want; the Gods and the Goddess’s, the Earth, the real or the fake, your heart, your mind, your spirit... they’re all one.

                If you question yourself on what you believe then you may want to get to the root of why you’re questioning such things.. I find most pose questions when they want to be reinforced towards the idea that what they’re doing is right, or wrong. If a voice speaks to you, its your own voice; if it doesn’t speak then maybe silence works for you.. just try to be happy and content with the ‘right now’ in your life, and the answers to all you seek will come for you.

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                  #9
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                  Originally posted by Dez View Post
                  My spouse considers himself agnostic, if not outright atheist. He also pours out some beer or mead to Odin every Wednesday, and has had multiple interactions with him now.

                  Some deities don't care if you believe in them or not.
                  haha I like this. Made me chuckle!


                  I pretty much agree with everyone else. I guess it all boils down to what ever feels right for you.
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                  I have never been across the way
                  Seen the desert and the birds
                  You cut your hair short
                  Like a shush to an insult
                  The world had been yelling
                  Since the day you were born
                  Revolting with anger
                  While it smiled like it was cute
                  That everything was shit.

                  - J. Wylder

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                    #10
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                    There's different kinds of reality (or nonreality but that's a different matter entirely) . A metaphor can be as real as a literal thing and have as much meaning (or lack there-of) as a literal being.
                    Also think of them however you want. I'm a nihilist but I still worship and believe in gods
                    Circe

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                      #11
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                      It's a fuzzy area for me. I generally tend to think of myself as a soft polytheist, because I don't really consider myself a believer in a real, corporeal, physical deity. I tend to think of them as energy or as a psychological influence or something else I don't really understand - pretty much anything but an actual, tangible being.

                      But I talk to Dionysos and I understand his communication to me. I feel strongly that I have a relationship with him. So whatever the gods are, I get fulfillment from my faith regardless of how it works.

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                        #12
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                        The Gods if your religion created the world you believe in. They also created the nature that surrounds us. And this nature surves them.
                        I think they can be hosted by humans and animals. They nay have the spiritual world like the Duat- for me.
                        Best of luck!
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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Greenlife View Post
                          Is it okay to think of the God and Goddess as metaphorical and represent nature rather than literal beings?
                          Sure. Most people think that anyways if really pressed to answer logically.
                          Satan is my spirit animal

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                            #14
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                            It's perfectly acceptable to view them as symbols or archetypes. I'm of the opinion that I will never know for sure, and that's just part of the mystery
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                              Originally posted by Raphaeline View Post
                              It's a fuzzy area for me. I generally tend to think of myself as a soft polytheist, because I don't really consider myself a believer in a real, corporeal, physical deity. I tend to think of them as energy or as a psychological influence or something else I don't really understand - pretty much anything but an actual, tangible being.

                              But I talk to Dionysos and I understand his communication to me. I feel strongly that I have a relationship with him. So whatever the gods are, I get fulfillment from my faith regardless of how it works.
                              This viewpoint reminds me strongly of my friend Lauren. She's expressed, in conversations, an ambivalence about the existence of the gods. Unsure as to whether she views them as thoughtforms and archetypes, or as real beings. But her experiences with Dionysos have pulled her increasingly towards some harder kind of theism, though I'm not sure if he's a hard polytheist per se.

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