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    #181
    Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

    Originally posted by warwulf View Post
    The jewish "faith" strives only if the sacrifice is 'kosher'. The 'K' coming from the Hebrew Kev, meaning 'pain, suffering, anguish' so the more the animal or human suffers, the more holy it is for the jew. Examine kosher slaughter videos if you have the stomach and research jewish child sacrifices in Europe. Even as late as 2004, in Venezuela, 45 Rabbis were arrested for the ritualistic murder of blonde, blue-eyed children when they were busted filming the rape and sodomization, the slitting of the throat and the gathering of the childs blood for matzo.
    Blood of another animal or human should only be implemented if the gain to ones own psyche and KA is worth it. To take a life needlessly is the ultimate error in egotistical tomfoolery.
    I don't understand the point of the anti-semitic sentiments here...?

    I agree with your last two sentences however.

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      #182
      Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

      Since when does the truth and facts make a recognition of race, color or religion? If my posts seem offensive, please prove me wrong. The above mentioned statements are based on arrest records, actual jewish videos of kosher slaughter and evidence provided at the trials.
      Nooo, no anti-semitism here but I will through out another irrelevant fact: jews are not Semites as they are NOT from the mythical Tribe of Shem. Shem was a Gentile Tribe. However, I digress. The Bible is a Book of Lies, myths and hypocricy and best left to the weak-minded lemmings to consume. There is nothing of value to Free Thinkers.

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        #183
        Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

        As Torey was apparently too subtle for you, I'm going to be far more blunt.

        This thread is specifically about blood sacrifice. It is not about finding ways to condemn Abrahamic religions. Drop the tangent or I will drop it for you.
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          #184
          Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

          I think there is much to be learned from suffering, but to inflict gratuitous suffering on another is to indulge instincts which have nothing to do with reverence. However, I think sacrifice can be made on the behalf of another if it can be reliably determined that the other person is taking more than they need - that is, either their activity is morbid and endangering both their own interests and those of the community, or they are enjoying a resource which would prove of more use elsewhere.

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            #185
            Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

            As I seen from one of Tylluan's videos, sacrafices can be also viewed as offerings and not as killing a living creature in a deity's honour.
            So if we talk about offerings, why should it exactly be killing an animal?
            Well... Yes - it greatly depends on the god / goddess we deal with....
            But if we keep to the definition of "offerings" - what would you mostly offer a deity?
            -Vegetables & fruit;
            -Milky things;
            -It can be just water;
            -Items, such as books, amulets connected to the deity, poems that you wrote etc'...

            All the things mentioned above are a great combination without killing anyone and anything...
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              #186
              Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

              Sacrifice means to make holy or to give to a deity. It is giving a deity something that you value to honor them. Yeah, a thousand years ago a goat or a chicken would be a meaningful sacrifice. Because goats and chickens were a VALUED part of your LIVELIHOOD.

              Offering a goat way back when would be the equivalent of offering an iPhone nowadays.
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                #187
                Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

                Originally posted by Denarius View Post
                Sacrifice means to make holy or to give to a deity. It is giving a deity something that you value to honor them. Yeah, a thousand years ago a goat or a chicken would be a meaningful sacrifice. Because goats and chickens were a VALUED part of your LIVELIHOOD.

                Offering a goat way back when would be the equivalent of offering an iPhone nowadays.
                Depends on who you are talking about.

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                  #188
                  Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

                  I personally don't agree with animal sacrifice unless: the animal itself was firstly raised as 'food', and then the ritual was planned secondary in order to honor its inevitable sacrifice. Otherwise, I would consider it selfish as I know that I personally do not need the animal's entire life-force or energy to carry out my will in a spell; I would simply add the animal's energy to my working through a 'shedding' of itself (a feather, hair, nail, or skin in the case of reptiles). In the case of needing abundant amounts of energy, I would just make the energy sacrifice myself, making it that much more personal and powerful.

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                    #189
                    Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

                    I hunt during season (for food) and also was raised keeping animals that would eventually be butchered. In a more traditional sense, I've never offered an animal as a sacrifice however I do use pieces parts in divination. Waste not want not. Maybe it's a little less tidy than cards, but it's the path I choose to follow. I've never considered a sacrifice to a deity however I wonder if the pieces parts used in ritual, reading a boiled sheep scapula's marks or spreading wings from dove season to keep for rituals. Is that sacrifice? To me, it's just using every bit for a purpose. I don't go out for turkey season with a strictly spiritual use on the brain, however, there's nothing wrong from benefiting in the total harvest beyond what is just eaten. At least from my perspective. But I'm not exactly sure if this falls into what you're meaning. I do think using erm, fresh, material is more powerful, however, I wouldn't go trap thumper just for a bubble bubble boil and trouble stew either. It's kind of a fine line of being respectful to the critter and using methods that aren't dark, just- well, traditional. Again, all from my perspective, and maybe not be a truth for others.

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                      #190
                      Re: Controversy Over Blood Sacrifice

                      Locking thread on request by OP.
                      Thanks for everyone's input.
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