Anybody here familiar with this? I recently read an article on Vice about it and discovered that there is a conference going on the next few days at a local college campus. It was kind of pricey IMO but I was able to bypass fees through volunteering.
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Dowsing fascinates me. What do you dowse for? Is that the right verb?ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic
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Yes, that's right. I always dowsed for water but it's possible to dowse for other things too. Some people dowse for minerals and even oil. Or for lost things (using a map and a pendulum sometimes.)
Using a forked twig you had to get the 'hold' right - all too often there would be a Ping! and it would shoot off over my shoulder!
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I was never very good at dowsing, myself. Torey mentioned that he uses dowsing rods, but he didn't mention that he's damn good with them. He dowses for 'lost things' and is absolutely uncanny in his ability to find them.
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Originally posted by Tylluan Penry View PostMy father taught me to dowse with a forked hazel twig, many many years ago. It was really fascinating.
I was never real good with it but he did show me how to use copper tubing and even old coat hangers and how they crossed each other when you passed over water. Pendants I could never get to work so never much bothered with those.
As you point out a bit further down the way you hold them has a lot to do with it.I'm Only Responsible For What I Say Not For What Or How You Understand!
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In this part of the world we always used willow.I often wish that I had done drugs in the '70s. At least there'd be a reason for the flashbacks. - Rick the Runesinger
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I would mostly want to use it to find lost things. There is a talk on how to use it to find ghosts, which sounds like it could be fun to try.
Originally posted by Roknrol View PostRead about the Idiometer effect.
For the most part it seems like science has said no to its effectiveness. Besides the Betz guy. I want still like to give it a shot though.
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The ideometer is not necessarily quite the same as dowsing. Yes, we can get the pendulum or forked stick or whatever to answer yes and no to order. And it might be what we want to hear so we subconsciously affect it. However, true dowsing searches for things that can be verified or disproved. I have an interested document about this from the 1950's so if anyone would like a copy please just pm me with your email address and I will happily send it to you. (I'd have added it as an attachment here, but unfortunately the file is too large!)
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There has never been a successful dowse (meaning, "better than chance") during a properly controlled test. Ever. This is the equivalent of the "bomb-sniffing" boxes that the Government bought that were also complete bullshit.
Of course, feel free to try it yourself, it's only science.
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That may be. But it's also true - I think - that for some experiments, 'properly controlled' can mean a lot of things, and some 'fringe' things don't work well in that parameter... I know the ideometer effect - it's one reason why I really don't like 'yes' or 'no' answers with dowsing. But a 'tell me where' answer can yield quite different results.
Science doesn't actually have all the answers. It never has. It sometimes gets them wrong. Sometimes this is deliberate, sometimes it's the result of sloppy work (with the recent MMR vaccine scare, we might be forgiven for saying this was a bit of both). Maybe what needs to be worked on - in this instance - is getting the right sort of 'properly controlled experiment.'
But that's just an idea. Feel free to disagree
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I've never dowsed with forks, but I've dabbled with pendulum dowsing... usually for lost things, but tell me, how does one dowse for a lost pendulum?? I guess it's kind of similar to dowsing for water?"Otwarty świat; rany zamknięte."
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There's a chap called TC Lethbridge who wrote several books about pendulum dowsing - he died in 1971, and I think the book with the most practical information in is is called ESP: Beyond Time and Distance. He had a theory, which he conducted experiments to confirm, that different lengths of string on the pendulum would detect different things - so for instance water could best be detected with a string length of 26 and a half inches (he worked entirely in Imperial measurements). When I was an archaeologist, some years ago, I detected an underground spring in a field we were surveying by dowsing, which was later confirmed by the electrical resistivity survey.
It is also the case that several Water Boards in the UK employed dowsers to find their underground water pipes. I can't see them doing that if the results were no better than guesswork.
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