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    Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    For me, I wish I realised that you don't have to buy a load of things in order to be considered a *insert different paths here*. I read so many articles where it stated you MUST have these tools, these books, these blah blah blah's in order to properly do things. I don't even use half the stuff I bought now, and I've made most of my tools over the years!

    What about you?

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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    I wish I wasn't that naive like I was in the beginning of my journey.
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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    I was exactly that way when I began practicing Hinduism, which I have since left. I bought statues of the gods, ritual items, books, and gods know what else. All of that is packed in boxes waiting to go to some storage facility. I so regret having spent so much money. And all this was because I was influenced by so many other people and their opinions and pontifications, not to mention my own General Anxiety Disorder and Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder. Now as an Asatruar I wear a bronze Mjolnir pendant, I bought a horn and offering bowl, my replica of the Eyrarland Statue of Thor, and a hammer, all for the altar, and some books. That's it, because I learned that you don't need any more than that.

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    I don't regret anything, or wish I had known something that I didn't know...and that includes spending money on things I may not have needed in the long run. I consider that all part of the journey--I am the sum of my experiences.
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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    At first I felt very pressured to choose a path right away. I was almost scared of starting, because I was scared of choosing wrong and being stuck. It took me a long time to realise that it was ok to jump around it would have been nice to know sooner, but it's all part of where I am now.

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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    I definitely feel the same way as you, Fire Nymph. I bought way too much when I began my path into Wicca (it seems a lot of people begin with Wicca and move into other religions later on, hm), and now the whole lot of it is useless since I'm no longer a Wiccan. Sometimes I really hate money. XD

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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    Yeah, I never liked the emphasis on tools, either. Beyond a handful of basics, it's all aesthetic and personal.

    One conclusion I wish I'd come to more quickly is that there really isn't a one size fits all way to do things, and that - risks and all - it's perfectly okay to be 100% solitary and only poke my head out now and then for a little extra information. There's not only a cultural suspicion of loners, but a lot of talk about how it just doesn't work.

    I had always heard that there were risks to practicing alone or that you need a human, in-person teacher to really make progress. Over the course of the past 15 years or so I've repeatedly tried to join communities and left so disillusioned and disappointed that I walked away from the topic entirely, despite wanting a more spiritual life. It was like a thick fog had fallen over me and I'd lost all sight of myself, my goals, and my joy. If it wasn't people just being people and sucking the joy out of the experience with petty arguments, power struggles, and the like, they were legitimate threats to honesty, safety, and independence - the type who are just straight-up power-hungry and want to wear the Enlightenment Pants.

    And maybe some people (normal people) can take that, but I can't. It's a needless burden and a distraction.

    At this point, I consider the risks a fair trade for being able to be left alone and do my work as I please. There are risks in all paths, as well as precautions that can be taken. I've made incredible progress without a teacher, my only official one having passed away almost a decade ago. I've seen what happens when you're not careful, and I'm more afraid of losing sight of my goals and losing my motivation due to entanglement with others than I am of any of the potential consequences of not getting second opinions from a real, live person. That, or just spending so much time in a bad mood that I can't focus. It's the same reason I don't purposefully keep company with other writers or join communities for writers, all benefits be damned.
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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    Start out by finding a teacher who can do what you want to do, knows what you want to know and lives how you want to live, then train under them and only under them - don't waste your time trying to make sense of things through hundreds of contradictory books until you have a solid grounding in the basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeran View Post
    Start out by finding a teacher who can do what you want to do, knows what you want to know and lives how you want to live, then train under them and only under them - don't waste your time trying to make sense of things through hundreds of contradictory books until you have a solid grounding in the basics.
    Haha good luck finding that person...
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    Re: Things you wish you knew when you first started your path?

    I have And so have a lot of others, it isn't impossible. Although granted it would be rather harder for someone completely new to it all (although they'd be the better for it, not having previously confused themselves with contradictory information and training) but that's still always the first piece of advice I give to people when they say they want to get into spirituality/magic. My progress increased exponentially when I dropped the books and started training under a teacher. People think that such people are impossible to find, but they aren't, it just comes down to how much you're willing to put yourself out there and how seriously dedicated to learning you are. Maybe it will be as easy as reading an article on the system in question which immediately grabs you and contacting the author, or maybe it will be as difficult as trekking across Asia looking for a genuine master, but if you're serious about your path and that is what's required, then it's worth it.

    Of course a teacher doesn't initially have to meet all of those criteria - nobody is perfect and no two people are identical in their aspirations and lifestyles, so maybe I set the bar a bit high - and of course sometimes you have to try several people before you find the right teacher for you, but just find a teacher you're compatible with. Even if it's just someone who can show you the basics and maybe point you in the right direction.

    Books are nice, but trying to learn out of books has as many downsides as it does benefits, especially if you're one of those people who reads everything available trying to piece it all together and ends up with a bunch of practices and theories which are incompatible (guilty). Books can't answer questions, books can't pick up on subtle mistakes you're making or help you when something unexpected happens, books can't adjust your practice to your personal situation, books can't provide an outside opinion on your progress, books can't give you complementary training and, well, books can't give you a much needed swift kick in the ass when you're slacking off. I love books, but trying to learn a spiritual practice out of them is making things much harder for yourself than it needs to be.

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