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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    The Influenza epidemic of 1918 gets a lot of attention yet most people never realize there have been many influenza epidemic's in the US alone. Some rather small in area of effect, others also acting on a global scale. The 1918 epidemic itself consisting of many "Blossoms" that erupted here and there even reappearing in area's where it had already occurred and passed.

    My Great-grandfather and Great-grandmother were both bed ridden with influenza in 1921 as part of that epidemic in Virginia. They both had survived the 1918 episode but my great-grandfather would not survive the 1921 bout. My great-grandmother would not only lay there next to her husband as he died but would deliver a daughter a few weeks later. Years later she would tell us about it though mostly as second hand knowledge that became part of family lore and was passed down.
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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    A brief history of rioting in America:

    (this is nowhere NEAR all of them...maybe 1/3 of the biggies (if I'd noted every Know Nothing or 1960 riot, I'd have written a book))


    Cincinnati Riots of 1792, 1829, 1836, 1841, 1853, 1861, 1862, 1884, 1941, 1955, 1967, and 1968

    NYC Anti-abolition Riots 1834

    1835 Baltimore Bank Riot

    1837 NYC Flour Riot

    Philly Prayer Riots of 1844 (Nativist/ Know Nothing Riot)

    Astor Place Riots of 1845

    1850 Squatters Riot of Sacramento (wasn't sure if this one counted, since CA wasn't a state yet)

    1851 Christia

    Bloody Monday Riots of Louisville (one of many Nativist and Know-Nothing Party Riots)

    1855 Portland Rum Riot

    1855 Lager Beer Riot of Chicago (Know Nothing Riot)

    1857, NYC's Great Police Riot (Nativist/Know Nothing Riots)

    The Draft Riots of 1863


    1864 Southern Bread Riots

    1866 Memphis Race "Riots" (IMO, Massacre)

    New Orleans Race Riots

    1867 Pulaski Riot (TN)

    1870-71 Orange Riots ("Irish Troubles" in New York)

    Meridian, Mississippi 1871

    1871 Chinese Massacre LA

    1885 Tacoma Anti-Chinese Riots (Washington not a state yet)

    1886 Haymarket Affair

    Robert Charles Riot 1900

    Houston Mutiny of 1917

    E. St L riots of 1917

    1919 "Red Summer" Race Riots:

    1932 Ford Hunger March

    1923 Rosewood Massacre

    1934 Minneapolis General Strike Riots

    1938 Hilo Massacre

    1943 Zoot Suit Riots:


    1944 Fort Lawton Riot

    1944 Agana Race Riots (in Guam, but between US servicemen)

    1945 Nylon Riots

    1949 Peekskill Riots

    1951 Cicero Race Riot

    1965 Watts Riot

    1967-69, Riots everywhere (nearly 150 in 1967 alone):


    1971 Attica Prison Riots

    1977 Houston Moody Park Riots

    1979 White Night Riots

    1980 Miami Riots

    1987 Atlanta Prison Riots

    1991 Mt Pleasant Riot

    1992 LA Riots

    2001 Seattle Mardi Gras Riot

    2005 Toledo Riot


    Something to maybe cheer you up? A Bonus Mini-Riot--Disco Demolition Night 1971 (maybe not really a riot, but a crowd lit stuff on fire, and it was interesting, so I'm including it here). Sports Riots are a thing.


    If you bother to read all this (and I don't blame you if you don't), or watch the videos, you will see a theme...
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    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

    10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

    11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
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    For in much wisdom is much grief,
    And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

    Pagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible

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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    For in much wisdom is much grief,
    And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
    Boy, howdy! You can say that again!

    Those who have suffered understand suffering and therefore extend their hand.

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    I loved the disco burning riots(Not a big fan of Disco) I was in SF for the white night riots....I remember people in Northern California worrying that the LA riots would come up the coast.

    People can be very dangerous in large numbers..I was at a thing where an ex police commissioner was running for mayor in SF,this guy was NOT liked in the Gay section the Castro,and he was doing a speech there,and it seemed like a spontaneous riot broke out,and they chased him out of the Castro(I will say I heard provocateurs in the crowd,getting the crowd worked up intentionally,so it was planed)
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    Re: Random and mostly forgotten moments in history

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Boy, howdy! You can say that again!

    lol, you picked the one book of the Bible I pretty much know by memory...

    He's quite the Buddhist for being a son of David.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

    Pagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible

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