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    #61
    Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

    My early interest in environmental issues played a big part in my decision to be child-free. I believe it's the biggest contribution I could have made, yet I've been snubbed and belittled over it my whole life.
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      #62
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      Interestingly enough, in developed countries, populations are not going up, they are going down. Most people don't want to have 6 kids anymore, they don't need them to work the family business, and they don't need to replace kids lost due to high mortality rates.

      Problem is... this leads to The Aging Population problem.

      (nothing is easy... )
      Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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        #63
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        Yeh,blame it on me,I tried to do the die young,leave a nice looking corpse thing...but my extreme good luck,and charmed life prevented me.
        MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

        all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
        NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
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          #64
          Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

          Originally posted by anunitu View Post
          Yeh,blame it on me,I tried to do the die young,leave a nice looking corpse thing...but my extreme good luck,and charmed life prevented me.
          Pretend you're still good looking. Who's gonna know?
          Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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            #65
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            I own a mirror..I know I am old and gross...deal with it..

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            also remember,I will make really good manure because of how well aged my body will be..:finger:

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            I need to learn to write in Emoji,seems to be the new thing..
            MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

            all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
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            don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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              #66
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              Topic, there's a topic around here somewhere....
              life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

              Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

              "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

              John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

              "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

              Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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                #67
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                This one in general speaks volumes


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                Yes,back on topic..start a food fight. Pizza making is bad for the environment ya know..runs and hides...

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                Did you know there is an emojipedia?

                Here it is.

                :=o:
                MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                  #68
                  Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

                  Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                  Yes,back on topic..start a food fight. Pizza making is bad for the environment ya know..runs and hides...
                  Depends on the toppings. It could be helpful in population reduction.

                  People have done so many weird things to the planet - in addition to pollution, we put plants & animals where Nature didn't, and then have to do even more to correct the first mistake. It's like we always have to be spinning our wheels to change everything, instead of just appreciating what we have.
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                    #69
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                    In San Francisco,golden gate park...big storm downed a LOT of trees(was over 10 years back when I was still there) mainly because a LOT of the trees were imported,and had "Tiny root systems more suited to their native land.
                    MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                    all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                    NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                    don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                      #70
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                      Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                      Profits or no, we don't have the luxury of dragging our feet on this. Climate change is happening NOW, and it's happening whether production happens in China or Europe. That's why international agreements are so important, even if they can be difficult to implement.
                      Well, this is why I started my comment with "is it possible for the western world to have industry and still meet its targets?"
                      I'm not one to ever pray for mercy
                      Or to wish on pennies in the fountain or the shrine
                      But that day you know I left my money
                      And I thought of you only
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                        #71
                        Re: Environmental Pollution, the thread...

                        Originally posted by Briton View Post
                        "is it possible for the western world to have industry and still meet its targets?"
                        Absolutely.

                        BUT.

                        It requires changes in infrastructure--physical, organizational, and ideological, of both the corporate environment and society itself.

                        For starters:

                        1. The bottom line has to be sustainability before stock prices
                        2. Companies have to invest in changing their efficiency standards and their energy sources
                        3. Companies have to be held fiscally responsible for their own actions and the prior actions of companies they buy out
                        4. Consumers have to invest time and energy into verifying business practices (or create platforms that can do this for them)
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                          #72
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                          All in a song from the way back(think 70's)


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                          Found better version of video.


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                          And that lead me to this,one of my all time favorites.


                          And it might be on topic in a strange way
                          MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                          all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                          NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                          don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                            #73
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                            ^^^ I have both those 45's. LOL
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                              #74
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                              When we were all so naive about the planet in peril....
                              MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                              all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                              NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                              don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                              my new page here,let me know what you think.


                              nothing but the shadow of what was

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                                #75
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                                Definition: Investor - somebody who puts money into a company, expecting to get more money back. This includes not just rich people, but people who are retired, and living off their pension, 401k, etc., or who intend to at some future date.

                                1. The bottom line has to be sustainability before stock prices - this means that investors have to be in for the long haul, not the quick profit.


                                2. Companies have to invest in changing their efficiency standards and their energy sources
                                - this means that investors have to be willing to settle for less money than they could be making.


                                3. Companies have to be held fiscally responsible for their own actions and the prior actions of companies they buy out - again, this means that investors will have to be satisfied with less money.


                                4. Consumers* have to invest time and energy into verifying business practices (or create platforms that can do this for them) - which means that everybody will have to be willing to get by on less.





                                *Consumer - another word for "everybody." We need to stop thinking of these things as problems forced on us by the wealthy, and face up to the fact that we have created the monster that consumes us. We have met the enemy, and it is us.
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