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    What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Well, what would Christianity be without Satan? What would the religion do if it were actually possible to drive the devil out of the world?
    Wouldn't that mean ridding of sin entirely? All those "bad" human emotions (temptation, jealousy, stuff like that)?
    And isn't it a more internal matter?

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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Wanderer View Post
    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Well, what would Christianity be without Satan? What would the religion do if it were actually possible to drive the devil out of the world?
    Wouldn't that mean ridding of sin entirely? All those "bad" human emotions (temptation, jealousy, stuff like that)?
    And isn't it a more internal matter?
    Not sure if you're asking this as a genuine question or just having a vent. Either way - hail, Satan!

    But even if somehow someone devised a way to completely expel "Satan" from the world - sin would still exist. It's really a moot point what "Satan" is doing anyway since, according to which religious perspective you're coming from, humans would continue to sin regardless of who was or wasn't prompting or tempting them to do so. This is why I find it odd and slightly humorous when religious individuals heap all of the blame for human "sin" onto Satan.

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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Wanderer View Post
    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Maybe Satan needs a Mexican vacation, but doesn't drive.

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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Wanderer View Post
    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Well, what would Christianity be without Satan? What would the religion do if it were actually possible to drive the devil out of the world?
    Wouldn't that mean ridding of sin entirely? All those "bad" human emotions (temptation, jealousy, stuff like that)?
    And isn't it a more internal matter?
    Well, they wouldn't have anything to blame bad things on besides god, I guess, so that wouldn't work.
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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    As far as I know, there is no Satan in Judaism. When Yhwh created the world, the snake made Eve to eat the apple. Eve then asked Adam to eat the apple as well. Yhwh punished the snake by cutting off its legs. That's what I know.
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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Wanderer View Post
    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Well, what would Christianity be without Satan? What would the religion do if it were actually possible to drive the devil out of the world?
    Wouldn't that mean ridding of sin entirely? All those "bad" human emotions (temptation, jealousy, stuff like that)?
    And isn't it a more internal matter?
    Interesting question, but the book of Revelation has already answered it. Satan is imprisoned in the abyss for a period of time, then released for a period of time, and then destroyed, along with sin and death. To answer your question, regarding the outcome of all of this in the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, they would be things of the past. Jeremiah 31:34 puts it this way: "And they will no more teach each one his companion and each one his brother, saying, 'KNOW Jehovah!' for they will all of them know me, from the least one of them even to the greatest one of them," is the utterance of Jehovah. "For I shall forgive their error, and their sin I shall remember no more." "
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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    There is a belief that Judaism(the religious belief) was a result of the Hebrews living near the Sumerians,and picking up some of their beliefs and rituals.
    I am not sure anyone has absolute proof this happened,but some historical scholars think it to be true.
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    Re: What would Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be without Satan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Wanderer View Post
    I attended a service on Sunday with my family and the pastor was talking about driving Satan out of the country and stuff like that.
    Well, what would Christianity be without Satan? What would the religion do if it were actually possible to drive the devil out of the world?
    Wouldn't that mean ridding of sin entirely? All those "bad" human emotions (temptation, jealousy, stuff like that)?
    And isn't it a more internal matter?

    I wasn't raised to believe in Satan, and I was raised as a Christian. Evil is simply a rip in the fabric of empathy, "The Devil" is a name we give to our uncompassionate selfishness and "Hell" is a place that we create and live in when we give in to that.
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