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    Whats too young?

    My second cousin posted an article about being charged with neglect if you leave a child by themselves under the age of 14. As seen here: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/leave...-illinois-law/

    Texas is one of these states where a child cannot be left home alone under the age of 12. However there where times growing up where my Dad didn't have a choice but to leave us home for a few hours every now and then. As a single parent with an ex-wife who couldn't pay her child-support my Dad couldn't always afford a babysitter. However when those times arose we were given strict rules to follow and always had at least two emergency plans.

    Unfortunately I seem to be the only one (well that commented anyway) that believes if properly prepared and given rules and emergency plans a child can stay home by themselves for an hour or two. If fact it is believed that the world is soooo much more dangerous then it was 10 to even 20 years ago. And apparently a child of 20 years ago could over take an intruder but a child of today could not and would be overcame and stolen away.

    For you parents out there. Do you agree that a child under the age of 14 should not be left alone or do you believe differently?
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    Re: Whats too young?

    Lol, we have an entire thread on this somewhere...

    I leave my kids alone for up to an hour or two at home AND I let them play outside
    by their self...Virginia doesn't have any home alone laws.

    And the IL law is ridiculous--when I lived there, thank goodness it wasn't a law. I had a great time staying home after school and in the summer at 10.
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    Re: Whats too young?

    I didn't know there were state laws about this... the more I learn. ^^

    I was staying home alone for several hours starting at age 9, my sister started around that age too (although we lived 2 blocks from our school and she was always at home while I was there, so she wasn't actually alone alone).

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    Re: Whats too young?

    Depends on the kid and the length of time alone. I generally think if a 10 year old can't be trusted to stay out of trouble for several hours then either

    1) there's a problem in the area requiring extra caution

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    2) someone has been failing the kid

    Under 10, I become more wary but there's still a decent amount of leeway depending on circumstances
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    Re: Whats too young?

    I should probably elaborate that our neighbor worked from home, our previous daycare was around the block, and my parents were always available to answer phone calls whenever they weren't at home. Circumstances, definitely.

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    Re: Whats too young?

    It's not only about intruders, etc., but the kid themselves - getting a bright idea to cook something or do laundry with a full bottle of soap, etc.

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    Re: Whats too young?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkfeathers View Post
    It's not only about intruders, etc., but the kid themselves - getting a bright idea to cook something or do laundry with a full bottle of soap, etc.

    or, teach them how to cook and do laundry...

    Phee doesn't touch laundry (I apparently need to get on that, I was doing all the laundry at that age), but she can operate the microwave and make pancakes, french toast, scrambled eggs, and a few other things.
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    Re: Whats too young?

    Age isn't the only factor. There is also the intelligence and confidence of the child. The area. The time of day.
    In Los Angeles? Well a little girl of 3 I believe was picked up off the street of her house. Taken for a ride. Returned to the street.

    The news says she was 'injured'. It wasn't good.

    Then again if you live on a nice street in a nice town and you know your neighbors, you can get by. Our street is a culdesac, so it's pretty dead. We know all the neighbors. Kids play out in the quiet street and ride bikes and skateboards back and forth. No big deal.
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    Little story about where I grew up. I grew up in the projects. Young guy drives in and parks,and is surrounded by about 30 people,until he explains he is here to see "Make up a girls name",people check that she is expecting the guy..things calm down when she comes and meets the guy...very protective neighborhood..
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    Re: Whats too young?

    Every family is different as is every child. I grew up in a single parent household. My dad raised my brother and I. He remarried when I was 15. My mother was laid off from almost every job she ever had so child support was an uncommon item. He raided us to be smart and safe. We locked the doors when we got home and didn't go outside till he was there. Though we could have as we had plenty of neighbors to watch us. We also knew his work number and how to dial 911. We also had escape plans and so forth.

    I honestly donot understand why you can't teach children of today this same exact thing. I also know that it depends on the child and the neighborhood but I think giving a child some freedom is good for them.

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