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    #16
    Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

    Well, one of the charges mentioned is conspiracy and they can probably tack a number of counts of conspiracy on to the indictment. The problem will be making the conspiracy counts stick. If he's convicted of twenty to thirty counts of conspiracy to commit murder then I don't expect him to be out of a cell in the near future. Heck, one or two counts on that conspiracy can net someone a new 8 by 12 room for quite some time.
    Life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

    "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

    John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

    "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

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      #17
      Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

      I'm just agreeing with everyone here really. Fantasies - harmless, doing illegal things to obtain information about real people and then planning in detail how you want to kill and eat them - HELL no. Sounds like the start of a CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds episode *shudder*
      ~J

      "The very young do not always do as they are told."

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        #18
        Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

        I won't say fantasies are harmless, just that I consider them infinitely less harmful than any government intervention in what amounts to private thoughts. I don't generally want institutions empowered to take action based on what we think. What we do or have taken active demonstrable steps in preparation of doing is an entirely different subject. It's on the state to demonstrate illegal data access and that said access was in furtherance of a conspiracy. If it can do so then sentence the **** to the maximum penalty for conspiracy to commit murder against each name in his database and make the sentences consecutive. 100 counts of conspiracy should see him dying in prison.
        Life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

        Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

        "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

        John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

        "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

        Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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          #19
          Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

          The content of this officer's fantasies doesn't bother me at all. People get turned on by all sorts of strange things, and the internet has proven that it's not just one or two people per fetish - ever seen 'vore' anime?

          However, I'm with Corbin & Masked about the gross abuse of position and the accessing of personal information to fuel those fantasies. It doesn't matter why this guy was taking home personal information or accessing the information to begin with - he needs to have a slightly harsher punishment than administrative leave or suspension for that.
          The forum member formerly known as perzephone. Or Perze. I've shed a skin.

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            #20
            Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

            True. I can separate the fantasy from the action and this guy will still have a lot to account for.

            I get shivers thinking about what some people fantasize about. Molesting a corpse is right up there, for me. I can't fathom the thinking behind that fantasy, at all. Stewing up some chicks? Sure, I can get behind that, as a fantasy. But I can't fathom advertising it, pursuing information on potential dinner dates, or even having it come from a trusted authority figure. He can THINK all he wants but once he tells me about it, he's GOT to expect an unwelcome response. You know, actions aside.




            "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it." - Ayn Rand

            "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." - Marcus Aurelius

            "The very ink with which history is written is merely fluid prejudice." - Mark Twain

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              #21
              Re: Is it just fantasy, or...

              Safe, sane, and consensual. If a person decides to bring a fantasy into reality and that reality betrays those guidelines or is life-threatening in any way, they need to be dealt with by the law. Gathering information about potential, unwilling victims that would be put in a very life-threatening situation if taken a step farther is putting this fantasy into reality. It does not match any of the safe, sane, consensual requirements, so yes, this person needs to be dealt with by the law. Yes, he should be locked up. No, he should never be allowed to be a cop or be put in any sort of power over the public again.
              We are what we are. Nothing more, nothing less. There is good and evil among every kind of people. It's the evil among us who rule now. -Anne Bishop, Daughter of the Blood

              I wondered if he could ever understand that it was a blessing, not a sin, to be graced with more than one love.
              It could be complicated; of course it could be complicated. And it opened one up to the possibility of more pain and loss.
              Still, it was a blessing I would never relinquish. Love, genuine love, was always a cause for joy.
              -Jacqueline Carey, Naamah's Curse

              Service to your fellows is the root of peace.

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