I labeled this as a debate, because it's likely to turn into one. I'm hoping that, if it does, it will be understood that nothing here is personal. This isn't about any person or persons, it's about books and doctrines. Please make a concerted effort to keep it about the religion/s, about the concepts, and about the ideas presented; never about individuals. The majority of individuals are well-intentioned and at worst misled but mean well.
I know what I'm about to present will outrage some and make others ridicule. Neither is my intent. I am telling the truth as I have experienced it, and it is not meant to be offensive. Sometimes the truth is offensive, but I hope that those who don't agree and/or don't want to see it, will debate the concepts and understand that it's, again, about doctrines and books... not people.
In my early years, I was raised by Satanists who went to a Baptist church on Sundays. They lived in every way as if they were Baptists within the public eye--fundamentalist Baptists, at that.
On some days, they would visit the same church for their "other" rituals. It was their belief that the Christians were servants to their god, and the people worshiping and venerating the cross (a torture device) were infusing it with spiritual power... the magic of their worship. One of the rules of their religion (which was not technically Satanism as it's espoused popularly, but more on that later), was that they must tell the other what's really going on. It doesn't have to be direct, and it can be couched in such a way as to make it appear (on the surface) to be absurd... but it still has to be done.
So, on these days when they reaped the power of the "slaves'" worship, they felt completely reasonable in their actions. By their way of reckoning, the fact that "lucifer" means "morning star" and jesus is later called "star of the morning" is enough notification within the book of spells (the bible) that the "god" of the bible isn't what he appears. Fortunately for them, there is much arguing that it's "a misinterpretation" or that it's a "mistranslation" and as such, no one accepts even the possibility. In point of fact, with the carefully installed psychological trickery in the book of spells, it is tantamount to heresy to even suggest the idea... even if it's written openly (as it is).
By the view of this group (I'll call it the Collective, since "satanism" is a misnomer created for other purposes), the christians (and muslims, actually) worship the same god as the collective itself does... but as slaves. The purpose of these other religions is to create energy (not only religions, either... the medical industry is another method of energy generation, as an example off-hand). This energy is then used by the Masters (them) for various purposes. The ceremonies held in, or near churches and mosques (additionally hospitals and schools whenever possible) are intended to reap the energy of venerating the torture device and the reflection of the morning star (the moon, which reflects the power of their god and is thus greater than the sun because it can be harnessed--spiritually speaking--whereas the sun is "too much" to harness adequately). The energy of suffering is also harnessed (for all energy is equal, but it must be voluntarily given to be taken).
Now, the next paragraph is where people frequently get angry with me. However; I am attempting to point some things out here, and honest language is required to make the point I am attempting to get across here.
Inherent within christianity are certain spells and rituals. One such ritual is that of symbolic cannibalism. Christians object strenuously to this word; yet nothing else can be accurately applied here. The ritual of consuming the dead in order to capture their power is an ancient one. Christians would argue that, since they are only symbolically consuming the spiritual essence, it is thus not cannibalism.
I argue, rather, that consuming another person in order to merge with that person (and as such, take on his powers), is cannibalism. This ritual is hidden in plain sight. There's no mistake that this is symbolic consumption of another person, and it is a spell. It is difficult to fathom the fact that the same person who will object that it is a beautiful spiritual communion can at the same time dismiss the possibility that it is a magical spiritual ritual.
The same individual who claims prayer invokes the will and power of god, will state that spells aren't real and don't exist... yet they have just performed one. They consider it simply a given that they have invoked the power of their god on their own behalf with their 'prayer'. But call it an 'incantation' and they become adamant that they are different things... yet in truth it is the same thing. Albeit ineffective in most instances, a factor for which there is always an excuse readily available.
There are incantations built into the book, as well. The "Lord's prayer" is one such example, and a widely used one. The opening invocation is "Our Father Who Art In Heaven" which is the bright and morning star in the heaven... whom is being invoked is clearly and honestly spelled out, but all it takes is a ready excuse and what is directly in front of a person can be readily ignored. It asks that the slave be forgiven his or her transgressions... and then the slaves states that he or she forgives all transgressions against herself, thus negating and pardoning the transgressions of the "Masters" (the collective).
The churches are used both directly and indirectly through both energy retrieval and financial redistribution, to further and increase the wealth and power of the collective and its members.
Another clue as to the true patron of these churches is found in the decor. Within many mosques and churches you will find red, black, gold, and marble (the noble stone of the star). Also purple, which is considered a royal color and is associated with the morning star god. By the way, the morning star god is NOT the sun, just pointing this out so there's no misunderstanding. More like venus... the first star of the morning, which is thought to be reflected in the moon from a spiritual perspective (not physical).
In particular, red is especially adored in their decor... a color of blood, which is life and power, and is taken in the powerful symbolic cannibalistic ritual. The adornment of the room with blood, and the veneration of "the blood of jesus" is symbolic, though the adherent is taught it is spiritually beautiful to be "covered in the blood" or to be symbolically bathed in it as a purification ritual of rebirth.
Which leads to another ritual that generates significant power. The death of the adherent through symbolic drowning, followed by 'resurrection' by rising from the blood, or the waters of life (which is blood). The water symbolizes life, and blood is life. This is an overlooked part of this ritual, but it is clearly stated within the texts (that blood is life and that water represents life--thus blood). The bath in blood, during which the adherent is killed and then brought into their new life as a slave also generates powerful spiritual energy.
There are numerous other such rituals. The childhood ritual of symbolic castration, the removal of the skin of the penis as a gift to "god" is another one, and is performed by white-cloaked priests within the 'temple' of hospital. Rarely is any anesthesia given for the ritual symbolic castration of the newly born slave-- a dedication of the slave to the god, performed with pain and blood. This ritual sets the child slave aside from the rest of the population as owned by the god to whom the adherent is a slave.
Within the text itself are multiple spells, but there is also basic mental trickery. Leaning on your own intelligence and reason is firmly and adamantly condemned. Any question is answered with the dismissive "his ways are not our ways" or "we are just humans, too stupid to understand". Doubting or questioning are both recipes for brutal torture in your afterlife, so even if you should figure out that "something isn't right," there are numerous tools put in place to discourage escape from the mental and spiritual slavery of the religion (and the slavery that it makes no attempt to hide).
Anyway, I've jibber jabbered long enough. This is not intended to offend christians, it is my hope that at least others who have left the religion and still experience doubt might read this and begin to understand what they were up against. And, also, what they were experiencing as they began to doubt and attempted to escape. I do not expect any christians to change their minds or to accept anything I've said. I'm not trying to lead anyone away from what they genuinely believe; I am simply offering information for those who wish to hear it. Perhaps there will be greater understanding for some, especially those still struggling with having left this religion.
Please remember that we are discussing doctrines and books. I am not demonizing individuals, who are simply doing the best they can with what they know, as we are all doing.
I know what I'm about to present will outrage some and make others ridicule. Neither is my intent. I am telling the truth as I have experienced it, and it is not meant to be offensive. Sometimes the truth is offensive, but I hope that those who don't agree and/or don't want to see it, will debate the concepts and understand that it's, again, about doctrines and books... not people.
In my early years, I was raised by Satanists who went to a Baptist church on Sundays. They lived in every way as if they were Baptists within the public eye--fundamentalist Baptists, at that.
On some days, they would visit the same church for their "other" rituals. It was their belief that the Christians were servants to their god, and the people worshiping and venerating the cross (a torture device) were infusing it with spiritual power... the magic of their worship. One of the rules of their religion (which was not technically Satanism as it's espoused popularly, but more on that later), was that they must tell the other what's really going on. It doesn't have to be direct, and it can be couched in such a way as to make it appear (on the surface) to be absurd... but it still has to be done.
So, on these days when they reaped the power of the "slaves'" worship, they felt completely reasonable in their actions. By their way of reckoning, the fact that "lucifer" means "morning star" and jesus is later called "star of the morning" is enough notification within the book of spells (the bible) that the "god" of the bible isn't what he appears. Fortunately for them, there is much arguing that it's "a misinterpretation" or that it's a "mistranslation" and as such, no one accepts even the possibility. In point of fact, with the carefully installed psychological trickery in the book of spells, it is tantamount to heresy to even suggest the idea... even if it's written openly (as it is).
By the view of this group (I'll call it the Collective, since "satanism" is a misnomer created for other purposes), the christians (and muslims, actually) worship the same god as the collective itself does... but as slaves. The purpose of these other religions is to create energy (not only religions, either... the medical industry is another method of energy generation, as an example off-hand). This energy is then used by the Masters (them) for various purposes. The ceremonies held in, or near churches and mosques (additionally hospitals and schools whenever possible) are intended to reap the energy of venerating the torture device and the reflection of the morning star (the moon, which reflects the power of their god and is thus greater than the sun because it can be harnessed--spiritually speaking--whereas the sun is "too much" to harness adequately). The energy of suffering is also harnessed (for all energy is equal, but it must be voluntarily given to be taken).
Now, the next paragraph is where people frequently get angry with me. However; I am attempting to point some things out here, and honest language is required to make the point I am attempting to get across here.
Inherent within christianity are certain spells and rituals. One such ritual is that of symbolic cannibalism. Christians object strenuously to this word; yet nothing else can be accurately applied here. The ritual of consuming the dead in order to capture their power is an ancient one. Christians would argue that, since they are only symbolically consuming the spiritual essence, it is thus not cannibalism.
I argue, rather, that consuming another person in order to merge with that person (and as such, take on his powers), is cannibalism. This ritual is hidden in plain sight. There's no mistake that this is symbolic consumption of another person, and it is a spell. It is difficult to fathom the fact that the same person who will object that it is a beautiful spiritual communion can at the same time dismiss the possibility that it is a magical spiritual ritual.
The same individual who claims prayer invokes the will and power of god, will state that spells aren't real and don't exist... yet they have just performed one. They consider it simply a given that they have invoked the power of their god on their own behalf with their 'prayer'. But call it an 'incantation' and they become adamant that they are different things... yet in truth it is the same thing. Albeit ineffective in most instances, a factor for which there is always an excuse readily available.
There are incantations built into the book, as well. The "Lord's prayer" is one such example, and a widely used one. The opening invocation is "Our Father Who Art In Heaven" which is the bright and morning star in the heaven... whom is being invoked is clearly and honestly spelled out, but all it takes is a ready excuse and what is directly in front of a person can be readily ignored. It asks that the slave be forgiven his or her transgressions... and then the slaves states that he or she forgives all transgressions against herself, thus negating and pardoning the transgressions of the "Masters" (the collective).
The churches are used both directly and indirectly through both energy retrieval and financial redistribution, to further and increase the wealth and power of the collective and its members.
Another clue as to the true patron of these churches is found in the decor. Within many mosques and churches you will find red, black, gold, and marble (the noble stone of the star). Also purple, which is considered a royal color and is associated with the morning star god. By the way, the morning star god is NOT the sun, just pointing this out so there's no misunderstanding. More like venus... the first star of the morning, which is thought to be reflected in the moon from a spiritual perspective (not physical).
In particular, red is especially adored in their decor... a color of blood, which is life and power, and is taken in the powerful symbolic cannibalistic ritual. The adornment of the room with blood, and the veneration of "the blood of jesus" is symbolic, though the adherent is taught it is spiritually beautiful to be "covered in the blood" or to be symbolically bathed in it as a purification ritual of rebirth.
Which leads to another ritual that generates significant power. The death of the adherent through symbolic drowning, followed by 'resurrection' by rising from the blood, or the waters of life (which is blood). The water symbolizes life, and blood is life. This is an overlooked part of this ritual, but it is clearly stated within the texts (that blood is life and that water represents life--thus blood). The bath in blood, during which the adherent is killed and then brought into their new life as a slave also generates powerful spiritual energy.
There are numerous other such rituals. The childhood ritual of symbolic castration, the removal of the skin of the penis as a gift to "god" is another one, and is performed by white-cloaked priests within the 'temple' of hospital. Rarely is any anesthesia given for the ritual symbolic castration of the newly born slave-- a dedication of the slave to the god, performed with pain and blood. This ritual sets the child slave aside from the rest of the population as owned by the god to whom the adherent is a slave.
Within the text itself are multiple spells, but there is also basic mental trickery. Leaning on your own intelligence and reason is firmly and adamantly condemned. Any question is answered with the dismissive "his ways are not our ways" or "we are just humans, too stupid to understand". Doubting or questioning are both recipes for brutal torture in your afterlife, so even if you should figure out that "something isn't right," there are numerous tools put in place to discourage escape from the mental and spiritual slavery of the religion (and the slavery that it makes no attempt to hide).
Anyway, I've jibber jabbered long enough. This is not intended to offend christians, it is my hope that at least others who have left the religion and still experience doubt might read this and begin to understand what they were up against. And, also, what they were experiencing as they began to doubt and attempted to escape. I do not expect any christians to change their minds or to accept anything I've said. I'm not trying to lead anyone away from what they genuinely believe; I am simply offering information for those who wish to hear it. Perhaps there will be greater understanding for some, especially those still struggling with having left this religion.
Please remember that we are discussing doctrines and books. I am not demonizing individuals, who are simply doing the best they can with what they know, as we are all doing.
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