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    #76
    Re: about Depression

    Originally posted by eternal sovernity View Post
    I like depression in a way. It is a state of mercy that promotes survival.
    Each to his own, but care to elaborate?

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      #77
      Re: about Depression

      Originally posted by Torey View Post
      Each to his own, but care to elaborate?
      I stand in awe at your courage. I simply didn't dare.




      "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it." - Ayn Rand

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        #78
        Re: about Depression

        Originally posted by midgnostic View Post
        I'm sure it can be proved that people with more sadness have less seratonin but what does it mean? Depression may be a side-effect of the purpose seratonically-challenged brains are adapted to. It may be necessary for them to be less easily pleased in the first instance in order to seek environments which are more conducive to their vocation
        I suppose that might work, if one is willing to allow their lives to be run by something outside themselves.

        What is that determines "the purpose," if not one's self, and why accept a purpose one doesn't agree with?

        The meds work for me... I'll go with them, and follow my own purpose.
        Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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          #79
          Re: about Depression

          Originally posted by eternal sovernity View Post
          I like depression in a way. It is a state of mercy that promotes survival.
          I'll be honest. I miss my severe depression. I loved being wrapped in a cocoon of sleep and dark. I was able to simply erase myself from the world. Depression is a strong seductress. When I was in my severe bi polar, I was a prolific writer. Now I can't write a damn thing. Which I guess puts me in the numb category.
          Satan is my spirit animal

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            #80
            Re: about Depression

            I agree with Medusa, but only to a point. My depression was crippling - there's no way in hell I could be as stable financially or socially if I were still trying to cope with that shit. And to go back seems...wrong. Not only does that directly impact the people I care about (my family), but I also remember it sucking a whole lot too.

            I mostly chalk it up to nostalgia and a touch of "the grass is greener"...but to each their own...

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              #81
              I think im turning into a legitimately depressed person. I dont like it. I feel weak. I'm seeing a doctor today about it.
              ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic

              RIP

              I have never been across the way
              Seen the desert and the birds
              You cut your hair short
              Like a shush to an insult
              The world had been yelling
              Since the day you were born
              Revolting with anger
              While it smiled like it was cute
              That everything was shit.

              - J. Wylder

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                #82
                Re: about Depression

                Originally posted by Heka View Post
                I think im turning into a legitimately depressed person. I dont like it. I feel weak. I'm seeing a doctor today about it.
                Good luck dear. Are you seeing a GP or specialist? I've been thinking about seeing a doctor about something similar but don't know if I should see my GP or specialist.
                �Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. And experience is often the most valuable thing you have to offer.�
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Juniper View Post

                  Good luck dear. Are you seeing a GP or specialist? I've been thinking about seeing a doctor about something similar but don't know if I should see my GP or specialist.
                  Only GPs here. Dont even know what doctor in getting. My friend just told me I needed to see a doctor. Today. Or else.

                  Here GPs are meant to be the people you see and if they think you need more help they may send you to a specialist. Is it the same there?
                  ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic

                  RIP

                  I have never been across the way
                  Seen the desert and the birds
                  You cut your hair short
                  Like a shush to an insult
                  The world had been yelling
                  Since the day you were born
                  Revolting with anger
                  While it smiled like it was cute
                  That everything was shit.

                  - J. Wylder

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                    #84
                    Re: about Depression

                    Originally posted by Heka View Post
                    Only GPs here. Dont even know what doctor in getting. My friend just told me I needed to see a doctor. Today. Or else.

                    Here GPs are meant to be the people you see and if they think you need more help they may send you to a specialist. Is it the same there?
                    I think so. You typically need a referral for a specialist but I don't have any experience with that sort of thing. I mean, my OB is a different doctor than my GP and I didn't need a referral but I think the OB is kinda like the GP of women bits...since I'd need a referral to see a specialist for IVF, should I choose to go that route.

                    Edit.....I have no idea if any of that made sense.
                    �Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. And experience is often the most valuable thing you have to offer.�
                    ― Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture
                    Sneak Attack
                    Avatar picture by the wonderful and talented TJSGrimm.

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                      #85
                      Re: about Depression

                      Usually if you tell your gp that you are feeling depressed and you have insurance, they will refer you to a specialist such as a psychiatrist etc. For me I went directly to GO TO SHRINK. Sometimes we get depressed and it's a bump in our life. We seek help just as if we had a cold etc. No shame in the game.
                      Satan is my spirit animal

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                        #86
                        Re: about Depression

                        Shame has nothing to do with it, for me. It's a matter of wanting to minimize the amount of contacts I need to make to finally talk to the person that can help. I hate getting the run around and all it does is irritate me and make me less likely to follow through. It just feels like taking a bus to a train to a boat to a plane to finally get to go skydiving. (Weird analogy but I think I get my point across.) too much time to think, which might mean I change my mind about taking the jump.
                        �Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. And experience is often the most valuable thing you have to offer.�
                        ― Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture
                        Sneak Attack
                        Avatar picture by the wonderful and talented TJSGrimm.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Juniper View Post
                          Shame has nothing to do with it, for me. It's a matter of wanting to minimize the amount of contacts I need to make to finally talk to the person that can help. I hate getting the run around and all it does is irritate me and make me less likely to follow through. It just feels like taking a bus to a train to a boat to a plane to finally get to go skydiving. (Weird analogy but I think I get my point across.) too much time to think, which might mean I change my mind about taking the jump.
                          I talked to a shrink person last week. The departmeny has a thing called the "employee assistance program" where they outsource councelling. You get 6 free sessions per year if you like.

                          Cept that person cant get me a medical certificate to get me out of work, its just someone to talk to. Though she has goven a strategy to help cope... I havent done it yet though. Theres things im too scared to put on paper, in case hubby reads it, like about studley..... lol why am I so wrapped up in an 18 yo? Haha
                          ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic

                          RIP

                          I have never been across the way
                          Seen the desert and the birds
                          You cut your hair short
                          Like a shush to an insult
                          The world had been yelling
                          Since the day you were born
                          Revolting with anger
                          While it smiled like it was cute
                          That everything was shit.

                          - J. Wylder

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Heka View Post

                            I talked to a shrink person last week. The departmeny has a thing called the "employee assistance program" where they outsource councelling. You get 6 free sessions per year if you like.

                            Cept that person cant get me a medical certificate to get me out of work, its just someone to talk to. Though she has goven a strategy to help cope... I havent done it yet though. Theres things im too scared to put on paper, in case hubby reads it, like about studley..... lol why am I so wrapped up in an 18 yo? Haha
                            Saw doc. Got a referral for a counsellor and some pills.
                            ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic

                            RIP

                            I have never been across the way
                            Seen the desert and the birds
                            You cut your hair short
                            Like a shush to an insult
                            The world had been yelling
                            Since the day you were born
                            Revolting with anger
                            While it smiled like it was cute
                            That everything was shit.

                            - J. Wylder

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                              #89
                              Re: about Depression

                              Heka, just want to say that you've done the right thing seeking out someone to talk to. There are all kinds of coping strategies that can be suggested and they're often things we've never thought of ourselves. Sometimes strategies like this are all that a person needs - sometimes not - either way, you've taken the first step.

                              Speaking of EAPs, I just saw my first EAP counsellor today. It's interesting that you and I seem to be on a similar wavelength at the moment, Heka. The EAP counsellor I saw also gave me coping strategies - I've been in counselling before and such things just never seem to work for me. Hopefully this time there will be a different outcome.

                              Regarding pills - they can be a godsend. Good luck.

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                                #90
                                Re: about Depression

                                Originally posted by Heka View Post
                                Only GPs here. Dont even know what doctor in getting. My friend just told me I needed to see a doctor. Today. Or else.

                                Here GPs are meant to be the people you see and if they think you need more help they may send you to a specialist. Is it the same there?
                                In my experience - locally, we have GPs, or a mental health clinic. I picked the GP because we have have an excellent doctor, and I trust him, so if he says I'll be ok, I start feeling better (I exploit the placebo effect), and I wanted pills because I had to get back on my feet as fast as possible & pills work faster than counciling.

                                If the pills didn't help enough, I would have also gone to counciling. But I learned relaxation techniques on my own, from books, so I didn't really need to.

                                If you prefer not to learn from books (I used The Relaxation & Stress Reduction Workbook), meditation classes or yogi classes will teach you the same things.
                                Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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