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    #16
    Re: 9 year old shot gun instructor with an uzi

    Originally posted by Munin-Hugin View Post
    I've got no issues with gun ownership, gun safety, or even with children learning the correct usage of firearms. The issue I have comes down to WHAT firearms are available to people. I really see no need for non-military/ipolice forces to have access to automatic weapons. If you want to own a rifle, or a shotgun, or a pistol, sure .. go for it. But an AK, uzi? There's no reason for that.
    I have an issue with only the military and police having access to that. Martial law concerns me our founding fathers gave us the rights in the constitution for a reason. I see no need for a police officer to have automatic weapons. History shows us coruption in people with power is a reality. Im not saying in my lifetime or the next but making restrictions on what we were promised in our constitution are steps in the wrong direction

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      #17
      Re: 9 year old shot gun instructor with an uzi

      Originally posted by loststarshine View Post
      our founding fathers gave us the rights in the constitution for a reason.
      Originally posted by loststarshine View Post
      making restrictions on what we were promised in our constitution
      Actually, this is a very common misconception, that has been used over the years and has not really been pushed by the federal government. The Right to bear arms was originally instituted due to the need of a colonial militia. As we are no longer in that type of situation, it can be argued that the ownership of firearms in the privater sector is not protected by the Constitution.

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        #18
        Re: 9 year old shot gun instructor with an uzi

        Originally posted by Munin-Hugin View Post
        Actually, this is a very common misconception, that has been used over the years and has not really been pushed by the federal government. The Right to bear arms was originally instituted due to the need of a colonial militia. As we are no longer in that type of situation, it can be argued that the ownership of firearms in the privater sector is not protected by the Constitution.
        It can be argued, sure. The Supreme Court has said it that such a position is wrong in two recent cases if memory serves but you can argue whatever you please. The court may eventually reverse itself, it has before.
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          #19
          Re: 9 year old shot gun instructor with an uzi

          Jesus, way too much heat for somebody so small. Whats wrong with a kid having fun plinking with a .22 pistol or rifle? Or even slightly larger calibres in semi or single shot modes? Anyways, I agree with whats been said. Full auto is hard even for an adult. I've shot a calibre as large as .308 in full auto, that being my general limit of control. But that took years of getting used to handling firearms. This little girl should not have been with that weapon, tragic all around. I hope she doesn't blame herself because it isn't her fault.
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            #20
            Re: 9 year old shot gun instructor with an uzi

            Honestly, I have no problem with gun play for kids--its developmentally appropriate, particularly for (most) boys (and eff the pc crowd, there are gender differences between most boys and girls, in terms of their temperament and behavior). I have no problem with toy guns that look like toys (water guns, nerf guns) being used for play and being shot at one another. Kids use play to learn boundaries, to act out their fantasy, to act out their feelings, and to learn context. Banning something makes it taboo, and taboo=tempting. Kids know the difference between something that is a toy and something that is not. If you let them play with the toy, it takes some of the temptation from the taboo of the real thing. If you let them play with the toy, you can let them engage in the fantasy aspect of expressing themselves. Then, you can teach them to use the tool (in this case a gun) in its proper context...really, a toy gun should be treated no differently than a toy car or a toy kitchen or toy construction equipment.
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