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    Lets reflect.

    So I always feel like this time of year (Autumn in The US) is always the best to turn inward and reflect after the long, busy, wild days of spring and summer as we prepare to Harvest. Im hoping we can all share our growths this past year, and ambitions for the future, perhaps give a little advice along the way.

    Im going to format mine as a sort of pro's and con's list only growth and ambition instead

    Growth:
    Im going to start with something that will remain an ambition for as long as it need be. Diversity. For the first time in my life I felt comfortable being more than one thing and not limiting myself to a singular label. Ive learned to steady my pace as well, Im not going to have a spiritual epiphany every day as I once expected, but I am happy and fulfilled.

    Accountability. In life we are no longer hunter gatherers, nor do many of us farm for our stead, but still we reap what we sow. This year I buckled down at work so I would be able to finanly take care of my debts, and move toward my goals for the future.

    Patience. This year I've tried to be as patient as possible in all things, Ive had mixed success.

    Ambitions:

    Love. I think this year Ive learned that while love begins as a seemless fit, in time it evolves into an honest steadfast labor of kindess, hope, triumph, hatdship, and compromise. That adjustment came hard for a man who married young. I hope to continue to grow.

    Honesty. So I think we all come to a point where we lose a desire to lease others and want only to be happy in our own skin, yet we fear alienating those around us by turning inward. My ability to balance that has been poor this year, this is an area I could use guidance.

    Motivation. In my life things have only gotten harder, more expensuve, and often less rewarding. I need to take the mundane is greater stride in hopes of greater reward in more meaningful tasks.

    Well thats all for now I guess. Hope you all share, offer input, and get the overall idea!
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    Re: Lets reflect.

    Originally posted by callmeclemens View Post
    Ambitions:

    Honesty. So I think we all come to a point where we lose a desire to lease [please?] others and want only to be happy in our own skin, yet we fear alienating those around us by turning inward. My ability to balance that has been poor this year, this is an area I could use guidance.
    It's a really fine line! Because we live in a community, as much as people don't like to hear this, we DO have obligations to each other. Since having bubba, I've realised that I really need to make an effort with people to build that community. It's important for him to be socialised and it's important for me to remain so! I think there's a line you can walk where you don't have to be all up in other people's faces about everything or making statements, nor do you have to jump headlong into something you don't agree with just to keep the peace. There is a bit of a compromise at play and I think you can walk the line successfully if you keep quality of relationship with the person a priority, but as you have identified that relationship needs to be built on a integrity and mutual respect. Honesty is linked with truthfulness, but truthfulness of words is not what a relationship needs at times. I don't think that is how you mean the word, but I'm just placing emphasis on a different interpretation.

    Anyway, I had a big response of my own but it's really wordy. I'll send it to you privately and try to come up with something less wordy in the meantime.

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      #3
      Re: Lets reflect.

      I agree, what also in frustraiting is when personal growth conflicts with others ideas of who you are (were) and your roll in their lives. Im coming to a time where those Ive brought into my life need only to bring themselves and I am content in the pleasure of their company.

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        Re: Lets reflect.

        Originally posted by Azvanna View Post
        we DO have obligations to each other.
        Mortals make (or get made into) pizza.
        Horrors eat pizza.
        Great and terrible beings leave Earth alone and therefore are not turned into pizza.

        There are obligations past those three?

        Since when????
        life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

        Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

        "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

        John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

        "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

        Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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          #5
          Re: Lets reflect.

          Originally posted by callmeclemens View Post
          I agree, what also in frustraiting is when personal growth conflicts with others ideas of who you are (were) and your roll in their lives. Im coming to a time where those Ive brought into my life need only to bring themselves and I am content in the pleasure of their company.
          Beautifully said. Also Clemens I just want to clarify I wasn't trying to give you guidance and act proud as if I am wiser than you sorry! I use the word 'you' in a non-specific sense a lot of the time. It's a grammar problem I have >.<

          Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
          Mortals make (or get made into) pizza.
          Horrors eat pizza.
          Great and terrible beings leave Earth alone and therefore are not turned into pizza.

          There are obligations past those three?

          Since when????
          Does the obligation for PF members to hand their sanity in at the door come into this pizza making process?

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          I'm just against the whole attitude of 'this is who I am, like it or lump it.' It's good to be confident in yourself, but at times I feel people take that attitude and use it as a way to never deal with their issues.

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            #6
            Re: Lets reflect.

            Sanity is a very good topping for many kinds of pizza...

            Regarding the whole, "This is me, deal with it," approach

            My answer amounts to:

            I have no problem with people being themselves as long as they aren't causing problems for myself or those under my care. If it is impossible for them to be themselves without complicating my life then I will be myself regardless of the consequences to the other party.To steal a premise from Victor Davion, "If you make your problems my problems then I will solve them for you and you might not like my solutions."
            life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

            Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

            "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

            John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

            "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

            Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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              Originally posted by MaskedOne
              To steal a premise from Victor Davion, "If you make your problems my problems then I will solve them for you and you might not like my solutions."
              Ooo I like that. I can use it on the children.
              ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic

              RIP

              I have never been across the way
              Seen the desert and the birds
              You cut your hair short
              Like a shush to an insult
              The world had been yelling
              Since the day you were born
              Revolting with anger
              While it smiled like it was cute
              That everything was shit.
              - J. Wylder

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                #8
                Re: Lets reflect.

                Challenges:
                Putting down roots and living green.
                One of the topics in NoD's Druidry course is about the process of shaping - letting yourself be shaped and in turn shaping the environment around you. While I was thinking about that topic, I realised I was living in pretty much total disconnection from the land around me. I had adopted the belief of the sacred in the natural, but hadn't yet modified my way of living to reflect that. I'm talking about mundane things here as simple as reducing waste. Within the chapter, the author of the text puts forward the idea of the land 'missing' a person. I thought that for this to happen, the person in question would have to become a part of the patterns happening around them. For instance, when I moved to this home, the Magpies would come and beg food at my porch. In that small way, the people before me had left their imprint on the environment and had affected the behaviour of the creatures here. That's just a small-scale example of what I mean. For another example, a relative of one of my indigenous friends said that they know they are home when the land cries out for their sweat. No idea wtf that means. lol Anyway, what I'm getting at is I'm not planted here. To really start to foster a connection with my land here means I might have to put down roots. I've moved a LOT over my life time and I really don't want to get close to anything because it makes it harder to leave. It's better to just think about the connection rather than actually have it. So, I'm challenged here. Time to live what I believe a little bit!

                Changes in attitude.
                Humility: This is kind of linked to the above, but on a social level. When it came to music ministry, I used to go into churches thinking I had something to offer. I'd have an idea of what I thought would sound the best and make everyone try to sound like that. I've learned to appreciate that God has a call over those people's lives as well and instead of making them sound better, I probably just made them mad at me or get really insecure. So instead, I'm trying to support people in their unique style and help my church band to play music in their own style while adding my style as well. So I'm more being absorbed into the team rather than dominating it.

                Practical action.
                Aggression: I can't think of a better word. For a long time, I let things just happen around me. I put my energy into becoming the kind of person that could be happy in all circumstances. Now, I'm being challenged to take a hold of my spiritual inheritance. I think I wrote about this a little bit when I was talking about being proactive in the spirit. I think there are things that I have a right to claim in the spirit that can manifest in the natural. Healing being one of those things.

                Anyway, Clemens you're really demanding some honesty here and it's a bit hard to open up, but it's nice at the same time

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                  #9
                  Re: Lets reflect.

                  ^ but the insight is quite rewarding no?

                  As I hope this thread will remain an ongoing forum through the season I would like to add something.

                  Self Confidence: I view myself to be somewhat as a pushover, not that I'm a coward and don't stand up for myself, as a matter of fact initially I am exellent at voicing my opinion, and taking a stance, all to often I am just ignored and except whatever comes next. Sometimes it can be challenging to hold your ground especially when it comes to dealing with loved ones, but the reality is retreating in fear of hurting loved ones can eventually turn into discontent, bitterness, and anger. It really beings at self trust for me forgiving past mistakes and moving forward.

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                    #10
                    Re: Lets reflect.

                    Originally posted by callmeclemens View Post
                    ^ but the insight is quite rewarding no?

                    As I hope this thread will remain an ongoing forum through the season I would like to add something.

                    Self Confidence: I view myself to be somewhat as a pushover, not that I'm a coward and don't stand up for myself, as a matter of fact initially I am exellent at voicing my opinion, and taking a stance, all to often I am just ignored and except whatever comes next. Sometimes it can be challenging to hold your ground especially when it comes to dealing with loved ones, but the reality is retreating in fear of hurting loved ones can eventually turn into discontent, bitterness, and anger. It really beings at self trust for me forgiving past mistakes and moving forward.
                    Well said problems I experience.

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                    Challenges:
                    Get in a better position finacialy with my debt. Relocate to Denver. Live a healthy lifestyle. Not asserting my wants and needs.


                    Solutions
                    Attitude:
                    Making myself top priority. Changing what I think I need to what I really need. Become more grateful for small things. Finding more beauty and joy in the mundane paces of life. Remove fear and doubt from my thinking process.

                    Action:
                    Work as much as I can save my money. Find a solution so I can return to school. Research housing and jobs so I can secure these prior to moving. Start exercising more often avoid junk food.


                    Mind isn't as in depth.

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