Nipple Equality

[Medusa]

Re: Nipple Equality

I dunno. If I were a naked man about to be arrested, I'd just wave my wiener in the air for a while. People tend to shy away from the naked wiener.

[MaskedOne]

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Yeah, but in NYC (and surprisingly many US states, though local ordinances may shut that down), its legal to be topless as a woman.

If it's legal to start with then the numbers don't matter. I was more concerned with the idea that 200 is somehow beyond the ability of the NYPD to handle.

[thalassa]

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Going by wiki, the 2013 NYPD employed a little under 50000 people. Now sure, not all of those are are uniformed officers with arrest powers but I'm pretty sure they can muster a couple hundred people. Try several thousand minimum.

Yeah, but in NYC (and surprisingly many US states, though local ordinances may shut that down), its legal to be topless as a woman.

[Jaxxie]

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I am a feminist, as well as a person who wishes she could be a nudist. To me, I don't mind my breasts being considered sensual, but I don't want to be objectified either. I think it's a very fine line between being objectified and being found sexually attractive. A woman's breasts serve a very specific function in nature, and that is to nourish her babies. We are the only species of mammal that sexualizes, and stigmatizes, the female breast, particularly the nipple. Cultural standards are what decides just how much of a woman's bare breast is considered acceptable, and when it crosses a line. For example, in some countries a woman exposing all of her breast wouldn't be considered taboo or overtly sexual. In America, it's generally acceptable for a woman's cleavage or the tops of her breasts to show. In some places a woman must be completely covered for modesty purposes.

Now, I don't see this as very crucial issue. I think it's more important to focus on a woman's reproductive autonomy, closing the wage gap, and dismantling rape culture. Being able to free my nipples is the least of my concerns when doing so would lead some men to believe it was an open invitation to sexually harass, or assault me. Until we can break that mentality down, freeing the nipple won't do us much good.

[Shahaku]

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There are several places across the world where women go topless but typically those groups of people accept womens breasts as the main source of nutrition for infants and not something to be sexualized. They have a completely different outlook. Our culture sees breasts as a sexual thing. It complicates things. Shrug.

[MaskedOne]

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As you can see, I'm quite passionate on the topic. I want to start a nudist revolution. I mean, if 200 people marched naked down Time Square, you wouldn't be able to arrest all of them, am I right? But on a serious note, there is nothing more sexual about a women's chest than a mans, it's just how we have been made to think.

Going by wiki, the 2013 NYPD employed a little under 50000 people. Now sure, not all of those are are uniformed officers with arrest powers but I'm pretty sure they can muster a couple hundred people. Try several thousand minimum.

[Norse_Angel]

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As you can see, I'm quite passionate on the topic. I want to start a nudist revolution. I mean, if 200 people marched naked down Time Square, you wouldn't be able to arrest all of them, am I right? But on a serious note, there is nothing more sexual about a women's chest than a mans, it's just how we have been made to think.

[Medusa]

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Well boobies are sexy. I even like boobies. I look. I look at my own. I look at other womens' boobies. I bet those women who want breasts to not be sexual would get awful effing testy if you told them their boobies were ugly sacs.

Women cannot have it both ways. We have sexy boobies. When we don't want to have sexy boobies we get upset when we are told are boobies aren't sexy.

So keep your boobies in your shirt. Shut up. Sit down.

[iris]

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The problem isn't equality as much as sexualization I think. When I was a kid I always went topless on the beach... I haven't done that since I was around 12. I'm quite confident about my body and I don't mind people looking, but the kind of attention it attracts is nasty. At 12 I was quite tall, but otherwise I looked very young, I was pretty flat chested... but older boys and men started assuming that my bare chest was an invitation. At that age I freaked out and started wearing tops - the attention stopped. Now I don't think that's sexist or inequality, I just think boobs are generally accepted to have something to do with sex...

[MaskedOne]

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Falls under the zero ****s given.

If people want to push the idea, awesome, I won't oppose them but I'm not gonna muster the energy to get involved in it. If I feel a need to take up a cause then there are dozens that are more important to me.

[Medusa]

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Honestly? I don't care. I'm trying to find equality in my paycheck.
F this.

[Norse_Angel]

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I don't understand why nudity is illegal. Who is so powerful, so all knowing, that they can put me in restraints, and imprison me for "revealing" my natural form? Why are we so embarrassed about ourselves? There must be something wrong with this species if we are not mature enough to handle our own sexual organs. The media, and religious morals placed upon us at such young ages have poisoned our image of our bodies, making them into something dirty... Something dirty in need of cover. While we are not dirty creatures, we are made to believe that our nudity is an unnatural, ungodly, unattractive, grotesque slander and improvisation on this world we walk. As well, The attempt to preserve the "innocence" of young children just deprives them from accepting their naked bodies as natural things. Making nudity such a dirty thing leaves young children uncomfortable with ideals that should have been seen as innocent as anything else through their eyes. While we sit in our animal skins and feel comfortable, we utterly lack the comfort of our own skins, which, in the end, leads to eating disorders, suicide, manic depression, and questions of our place. Clothing has done more harm than good, but our addiction to it shall never be lifted. Disgusting is our ability to destroy everything natural and replace it with something poisonous. We are human, but we are still animals.

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As well, What are clothes to you? Are they purely for what they were intended to be used for, or have they evolved to something natural? Here's the thing. Clothing in its first use, was made for protection and warmth. But as society advanced, we have made laws stating that the bare human body is unnatural and destructive to a perfect world. Fabrics and cloths are not used for protection and warmth anymore, but for the soul purpose of censorship. This is very destructive to the image of our bodies.

[thalassa]

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Eh... if someone wants it to be. It's a norm developed over time... I guess it depends on how much someone wants to complain...

Well, interestingly, one of the things they point out in the video is that men's nipples were taboo until the 1930's too...until men had their own free the nipple campaign because they didn't want to wear one piece full body bathing suits

[B. de Corbin]

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Actually, I'm at work, so as much as I'd like to watch the video, it will have to wait.

But - Is it inequality?

Eh... if someone wants it to be. It's a norm developed over time... I guess it depends on how much someone wants to complain...


Personally, I just want to enjoy.

In other words, I dunno.

[Denarius]

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Yes, but it should be preserved nonetheless. Normalizing bare boobs would make it less special and intimate, invalidating time honored traditions and works of art like the wet t-shirt contest and ecchi fanservice.

And what of cute bikinis?