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    #16
    Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

    Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    OK.

    The Vatican, then.

    That's pretty solid "in Europe," if you want to be picky, instead of taking the point I was making

    (P.S. every list I looked at - just to be sure, prior to posting - places Turkey in Europe, but notes it has an Asian part. Also, Turkey is a candidate for entry into the EU, which would be weird if it isn't in E.)
    Haha I know. I'm just saying it's a huge point of debate for several reasons. I'm personally cool with Turkey joining the EU, if and when it decides to resolve its issues with freedom of speech, owns up to the Armenian genocide, and deals with its economic issues.

    But anyway, I'm sorry for going off on a tangent there. My point was that within Europe, although there are definitely vast cultural differences, you just don't see the same level of debate surrounding science. In Europe (all of Europe), teaching religion alongside science isn't a thing and it confuses people, even people from strongly Catholic countries (I used Poland and Italy in my original post, for example).

    Also, if you want to get technical, Canada is a LOT larger than the US is, and the debate doesn't exist to the same degree there, either. As far as I know, teaching evolution in science class isn't part of the curriculum in any of the provinces or territories and is only done in religious schools. And Canada is a lot more diverse culturally than you'd think (especially due the whole Quebec thing and the "mosaic" approach to cultural integration).

    Anyway, although the US is a diverse place, I still don't think that excuses the fact that some places want to push creationism in science class.

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      #17
      Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

      Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
      OK.

      The Vatican
      Likes evolution, has liked evolution for an extended period of time and can trot the name Gregor Mendel out anytime someone tries to label them as anti-evolution.

      I agree with your point that the US has a lot of difference by region in a lot of things but the only way Vatican City works against the statement that evolution is accepted everywhere in Europe is if the Vatican doesn't actually have any schools teaching science within Vatican City itself. Officially the Church has no problems with evolution.
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        #18
        Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

        Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
        Haha I know. I'm just saying it's a huge point of debate for several reasons. I'm personally cool with Turkey joining the EU, if and when it decides to resolve its issues with freedom of speech, owns up to the Armenian genocide, and deals with its economic issues.
        We feel much the same way about Texas joining the US...

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        Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
        Likes evolution, has liked evolution for an extended period of time and can trot the name Gregor Mendel out anytime someone tries to label them as anti-evolution.

        I agree with your point that the US has a lot of difference by region in a lot of things but the only way Vatican City works against the statement that evolution is accepted everywhere in Europe is if the Vatican doesn't actually have any schools teaching science within Vatican City itself. Officially the Church has no problems with evolution.
        God-damned lawyers.
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          #19
          Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

          Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
          We feel much the same way about Texas joining the US...

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          God-damned lawyers.
          Hey don't hate on Texas because our idiots speak louder then yours!! We weren't taught creationism in school, none of us (5 brothers and 2 sisters and the baby will be a senior this year) and I come from Waco.

          ITs the Christians way of trying to hold on in a world where they are no longer dominant and all knowing.
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            #20
            Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

            Also,if some Texas peeps are big on God,they "might" want to ask about the flooding going on there. Just saying....
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              #21
              Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

              Originally posted by kalynraye View Post
              Hey don't hate on Texas because our idiots speak louder then yours!! We weren't taught creationism in school, none of us (5 brothers and 2 sisters and the baby will be a senior this year) and I come from Waco.

              ITs the Christians way of trying to hold on in a world where they are no longer dominant and all knowing.
              I knew I'd be hearing from you...



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                #22
                Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

                Originally posted by kalynraye View Post
                Hey don't hate on Texas because our idiots speak louder then yours!! We weren't taught creationism in school, none of us (5 brothers and 2 sisters and the baby will be a senior this year) and I come from Waco.

                ITs the Christians way of trying to hold on in a world where they are no longer dominant and all knowing.
                Only for the amateurs lacking in ambition. The Vatican answer appears to be, "Giant universe? Old universe? We shall take the Gospel to the STARS!!!"


                Okay, I'm exxagerating a little but if Vatican officials can get away with publicly discussing the theological implications of alien life then I can get away with having a little fun at their expense.
                life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

                Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

                "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

                John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

                "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

                Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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                  #23
                  Re: Lawsuit - teaching evolution ruins vet career?

                  Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                  I knew I'd be hearing from you...



                  LOL I think you pushed my button on purpose. Though we do have some serious idiots. There is absolutely no denying that.
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