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[Hawkfeathers]

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I'm concerned about the whole Clinton email situation playing into Trump's hands.

[B. de Corbin]

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I'm concerned about the whole Clinton email situation playing into Trump's hands.

As long as it isn't clear that the Bushes did the same thing. I think Thalassa posted about this earlier, but the upshot is - it isn't something that only H. Clinton did, however, in the political arena, only what you are told is real, what has actually happened is fantasy.

Freaky, but true.

[ThePaganMafia]

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It's an absolute farce to consider me hating America because I bring up that America behaves very differently from it's supposed values.

[Denarius]

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I honestly believe that Bernie would stand a better chance than Hillary in the general election. It's actually bad for Trump if Hillary crashes and burns before then.

Let's see if the fracking thing gains enough traction to give Bernie the advantage in Cali.

[B. de Corbin]

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It's an absolute farce to consider me hating America because I bring up that America behaves very differently from it's supposed values.

IMHO - as I, personally, see things.. Those who love the country are the ones who point out the problems. Rooselvelt tried to insult them by calling them "muckrakers," but they led to the pure food & drug legislation, the anti-child labor statutes, the rise of minority rights, and pretty much everything else that we regard as "propper and ethical" today.

Those who don't give a shit about anything but their bank account want those problems hidden.

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OK, let's see...

The Trump/Sanders charity debate for women's heath issues will NOT be taking place, because Mr. Trump considers it below his dignity level to engage in a debate - for charity - with a second-stringer:



Trump is such a man, such a manly man, such a man of dignity and power! Elect D. Trump so a manly man can rule where sissy boys and palace eunuchs once ruled...

[anunitu]

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Bernie was on Bill Maher and it was great...and no near riots because he was there..in California..!!

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Not sure the video will play.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-bernie-sanders-and-bill-maher-talk-about-the-canceled-trump-debate-and-more/#ooid=Vib2VzMzE6vR05OwKI3zg1ymjWPciWeH

[ThePaganMafia]

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I was at the Vermont Socialists weekly meeting and we had a very interesting discussion about the post Bernie movement. There seems to be a lot of denialism of the fact yhat Bernie has effectively lost the election among the base. Denial of reality is an unfortunate consequence of populist movement at times. Well, maybe just an unfortunate human condition.

Anyways, I think the post Bernie movement is more important than election at this point. There was also interesting debate about whether Bernie ia the canidate for the Socialist movement has he is a more of a New Deal capitalist than a true Socialist.

[anunitu]

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If nothing else,he has moved other politicians towards what I see as better positions..he has also gained some concessions from the DNC. I think he has pointed out to Clinton that the "People" are concerned with more than she seemed to understand.

[Hawkfeathers]

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As long as it isn't clear that the Bushes did the same thing. I think Thalassa posted about this earlier, but the upshot is - it isn't something that only H. Clinton did, however, in the political arena, only what you are told is real, what has actually happened is fantasy.

Freaky, but true.

And it only counts if it just happened. People forget very quickly! As for facts vs. media hype, I think we're doomed.

[anunitu]

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Trump is insane,and that is not just my opinion.

Donald Trump Tells Drought-Plagued Californians: ‘There Is No Drought’

“If I win, believe me, we’re going to start opening up the water.”


Story here.

I really think he believes he can just poof things away like climate change.

Video below.

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And what is with the "creedance"?

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The Colorado river that supply's Vegas and LA is down about 60 percent from it former flow. At some point California may be cut off from the Colorado water source.

Story here on the Colorado river.

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Then, beginning in the 1920s, Western states began divvying up the Colorado’s water, building dams and diverting the flow hundreds of miles, to Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix and other fast-growing cities. The river now serves 30 million people in seven U.S. states and Mexico, with 70 percent or more of its water siphoned off to irrigate 3.5 million acres of cropland.

The damming and diverting of the Colorado, the nation’s seventh-longest river, may be seen by some as a triumph of engineering and by others as a crime against nature, but there are ominous new twists. The river has been running especially low for the past decade, as drought has gripped the Southwest. It still tumbles through the Grand Canyon, much to the delight of rafters and other visitors. And boaters still roar across Nevada and Arizona’s Lake Mead, 110 miles long and formed by the Hoover Dam. But at the lake’s edge they can see lines in the rock walls, distinct as bathtub rings, showing the water level far lower than it once was—some 130 feet lower, as it happens, since 2000. Water resource officials say some of the reservoirs fed by the river will never be full again.

[Hawkfeathers]

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Too bad he's openly anti-alcohol; otherwise he'd say "No water? Let them drink champagne!"

Oh, and Bob Dole thinks he should pick Newt Gingrich as his VP. Now there's a thought.

[anunitu]

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Someone say this to trump.

Kurtz: Did they say why, Willard, why they want to terminate my command?
Willard: I was sent on a classified mission, sir.
Kurtz: It's no longer classified, is it? Did they tell you?
Willard: They told me that you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.
Kurtz: Are my methods unsound?
Willard: I don't see any method at all, sir.
Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

[ThePaganMafia]

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In the case of California water, he is not entirely wrong.

http://laist.com/2016/05/28/donald_trump_says_there_is_no_droug.php

[thalassa]

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the problem with not being entirely wrong is that you also aren't entirely right...

[anunitu]

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If you ever watched "China town" with Jack Nicholson is about those water rights kinda.
Plot kinda.

JJ 'Jake' Gittes is a private detective who seems to specialize in matrimonial cases. He is hired by Evelyn Mulwray when she suspects her husband Hollis, builder of the city's water supply system, of having an affair. Gittes does what he does best and photographs him with a young girl but in the ensuing scandal, it seems he was hired by an impersonator and not the real Mrs. Mulwray. When Mr. Mulwray is found dead, Jake is plunged into a complex web of deceit involving murder, incest and municipal corruption all related to the city's water supply.

Movie site here.

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The California water rights thing is VERY convoluted. Northern and Southern California have been fighting over water for a LONG time.