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    Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

    Originally posted by Medusa View Post
    What worries you most about today's kids?
    They are going to destroy everything I love, it's just a matter of time.
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      Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

      Originally posted by Medusa View Post
      What worries you most about today's kids?
      This may be (and I hope it is) because of where I live, but so many of the kids I work with are growing up to be unemployable.

      Unmotivated, rude, short short short attention spans, unable to put two and two together and get an answer (even a wrong one), imagine that they have knowledge because they can Google an answer (without any understanding of how to arrive at an answer), unable to go 15 minutes without pulling out a phone...

      Essentially - things they are allowed to get away with at home, and we struggle with it in school, but will never be tolerated in the workplace. To paraphrase Bill Gates, your boss just will not care about your self esteem.
      Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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        Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

        Originally posted by Medusa View Post
        What worries you most about today's kids?
        Ignorance. I'm more grateful each day that I remained true to myself and stayed child-free.
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          Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

          What worries you most about today's kids?

          I think on one hand, what worries us about today's kids is the same thing that worried our parents generations about ourselves, and the preceding generation about them. I once had the pleasure of reading the diary of some random girl that I found at an antique store, and honestly, her complaints about her elders as a preteen from shortly after the turn of the 20th century (1910-1912) sounded remarkably like mine. I'd imagine (and from what I've read, I'm fairly sure I'm reasonably correct) her parents complaints (minus the technology) will sound remarkably like mine as a parent.

          If anything were to worry me about today's kids as group (at least in terms of urban and suburban Western culture--and I've read enough articles and blogs from Europeans and Australians to know its not just a US thing), it would be their overwhelming distance from nature in comparison to previous generations.
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            Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

            Originally posted by Medusa View Post
            What worries you most about today's kids?
            Not sure if it's their peer culture, environment, etc. - but the fact that so many of them seem to be downright sociopathic. No care or consideration for others or the property/space of others, no care for their natural environment or living things, no respect, no remorse.

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              Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

              Originally posted by Medusa View Post
              What worries you most about today's kids?
              The dependence upon technology. I mean, sure, here I am, sitting on the computer, BUT...I didn't have a computer until I was 16. I didn't have a phone until I was 19. I didn't have my OWN computer until I was 21. Growing up, everything was hand-me-down this, hand-me-down that, and it seems like (thanks to marketing) that kids these days want the latest gadget, the latest trend, the latest this and the latest that. And they want it now. They don't wanna work for it.

              But the technology dependence gets me the most. There was this kid in the store last week who was bored, so I offered him some pens and paper to draw with. The kid looked at me in disgust and said "Why would I use that?" and then pulled out his IPHONE. When I told him we didn't have cell phones when I was a kid, his response (a response I've gotten from many kids - consider it my personal scientific experiment, if you will) ....the response I got was utter shock and dismay. How could you possibly live like that, they ask?

              Or my little brother who's ten. Last time I went to visit, he didn't want to play in the park, or go biking, or go geocaching, or any of the stuff we used to do. He wanted to play xbox. All day. The entire month long visit.

              Sadly, it's not just kids. I see adults that way too.


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                Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                Originally posted by Torey View Post
                Not sure if it's their peer culture, environment, etc. - but the fact that so many of them seem to be downright sociopathic. No care or consideration for others or the property/space of others, no care for their natural environment or living things, no respect, no remorse.
                Most of kids and teens are like this, no doubt. But there is a small amount of them who are the opposite. There is no doubt about this as well.
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                  Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                  What worries you most about today's kids?

                  This: If I mention something history wise that happened within the last 60 or so years,that I experienced personally they have no idea what I am talking about. I mean 60 years was not that long ago. The second world war was only about 70 years ago,and Vietnam was only about 40 years ago. If we do not remember our bad things,as they say they will be repeated.
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                    Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                    Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                    This: If I mention something history wise that happened within the last 60 or so years,that I experienced personally they have no idea what I am talking about. I mean 60 years was not that long ago. The second world war was only about 70 years ago,and Vietnam was only about 40 years ago. If we do not remember our bad things,as they say they will be repeated.
                    Teaching a class of college bound seniors, I needed a topic that I thought everybody would know at least something about - I picked the American Civil War.

                    Imagine my surprise in discovering that better than half the class didn't even know who was president at the time (I told them to look at a penny. They still couldn't figure it out), or what friggin' continent it took place on (AMERICAN Civil War? Whair wuz dat at?)...

                    This is no joke... I was floored...

                    This isn't due to bad education - this is due to flat out ignorance.
                    Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                      Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                      Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                      Teaching a class of college bound seniors, I needed a topic that I thought everybody would know at least something about - I picked the American Civil War.

                      Imagine my surprise in discovering that better than half the class didn't even know who was president at the time (I told them to look at a penny. They still couldn't figure it out), or what friggin' continent it took place on (AMERICAN Civil War? Whair wuz dat at?)...

                      This is no joke... I was floored...

                      This isn't due to bad education - this is due to flat out ignorance.
                      WTF?!?!?!

                      I'm in pain now.
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                        Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                        Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                        Teaching a class of college bound seniors, I needed a topic that I thought everybody would know at least something about - I picked the American Civil War.

                        Imagine my surprise in discovering that better than half the class didn't even know who was president at the time (I told them to look at a penny. They still couldn't figure it out), or what friggin' continent it took place on (AMERICAN Civil War? Whair wuz dat at?)...

                        This is no joke... I was floored...

                        This isn't due to bad education - this is due to flat out ignorance.
                        ..... I... Can't. Even.....
                        What? How?.....
                        seriously?



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                          Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                          Yeah... welcome to the realities of education...
                          Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                            Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                            BDC - it seems that one of the fundamental problems with education in this country is the throwing out of facts and hoping that they'll stick. Kids aren't taught how to use the information (or under what circumstances it could be useful), so when they "learn" something for a test there's no incentive to remember it.

                            I remember taking Algebra and asking when I would ever use it...my teachers couldn't give me an answer. My wife uses it all of the time, but me? Never. And I also didn't understand the importance of History for largely the same reason...it's only been within recent years that I've been motivated to do my own research and learn on my own.

                            One of my serious beefs with the world is that they give (paid for with our tax dollars, so "give" is probably the wrong word) you what they want, not what you need.

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                              Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                              I was lucky to have a very good math teacher,he took us outside and showed us what we could do with math, like determining the height of a building using the Pythagorean Theorem. He continued to teach like this,and I learned a LOT because of his technique of teaching.
                              MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                              all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                              NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                              don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                                Re: Medusa's Quesion du jour (the year of the horse edition!)

                                Originally posted by Roknrol View Post
                                BDC - it seems that one of the fundamental problems with education in this country is the throwing out of facts and hoping that they'll stick. Kids aren't taught how to use the information (or under what circumstances it could be useful), so when they "learn" something for a test there's no incentive to remember it.
                                Maybe. But, without disagreeing with you too strongly (because what you've said and what I'm about to say are closely related - if not identical), I'll suggest that the fundamental problem with education in this country is that it is wasted on the young - by which I mean that we teach people before they have much use for knowledge - and knowledge itself isn't considered valuable.
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