Columbus Day

[Tylluan Penry]

Re: Columbus Day

A Euro-Pagan??? As opposed to...? I mean, I'm indigenous to Wales if that's any help. If however you mean one of the First Nations then please say so, just to avoid any confusion. I mean, 'We traditional people...' might be a bit vague. After all we're all traditional people up to a point.

But, to set the record straight, I don't think about Columbus day unless or until someone brings it up. And I can well understand why some people get so het and spewed up about it. I would, myself, if I felt on the receiving end of it.

[Dragon Spirit]

Re: Columbus Day

I hate it. I hate that people are celebrating the beginning of a bloodbath, it makes me sick.

[DanieMarie]

Re: Columbus Day

Possibly because Holocaust Day would celebrate a time when a country was nearly destroyed, and Columbus Day celebrates a day when a country was begun?

Do people in Europe celebrate Destroy the Celtic Civilization Day?

If we're gonna get all self righteous and snotty, we may as well go all the way...

As a dual North American/German, I get it. It's basically saying that Columbus Day celebrates something that was a massacre and that remembering the effects of colonization should be a solemn affair, not a national holiday. Much like having a Holocaust Day in Germany would be a pretty tasteless thing to do.

I know that you know this, but I just thought I'd draw the comparison a little more directly. I think it's getting lost. People in Europe don't really learn the history of North America to such a large extent.

[Medusa]

Re: Columbus Day

Part of me is Spanish, so yeah. Happy Columbus Day!!!
Part of me is Mexican. So yeah, thank you for raping our womenz and making mixed blonde blue/green eyed beautiful babies!
All of me is American. So yeah, a holiday!

[DanieMarie]

Re: Columbus Day

John Oliver's take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKEwL-10s7E

I agree with him on almost everything except Scottish Independence, so naturally I loved this!

[thalassa]

Re: Columbus Day

A Euro-Pagan??? As opposed to...? I mean, I'm indigenous to Wales if that's any help. If however you mean one of the First Nations then please say so, just to avoid any confusion. I mean, 'We traditional people...' might be a bit vague. After all we're all traditional people up to a point.

But, to set the record straight, I don't think about Columbus day unless or until someone brings it up. And I can well understand why some people get so het and spewed up about it. I would, myself, if I felt on the receiving end of it.

TBH, being Native American doesn't guarantee an opinion against it either. I have a best friend that is Cherokee and Cree, a cousin (by marriage) that is Navajo, and both of them consider it so far down on their radar of things to even care about as to be a non-issue. Now, the Redskins not changing their name, that pisses both of them off (and I'm totally down with that), but "protesting bad history with more bad history is just bad form" to quote my bestie.

Also, both of them celebrate any number of Christian holidays, one of them being Catholic, and the other having children that are Mormon.

[Heka]

Happy Birthday Hugh Jackman!!!!:^^:

Mmm yeah, thats what im talking about!

[Heka]

FYI, Australians now have a national 'Sorry' day....

[Larix]

Re: Columbus Day

And what are the Aussies sorry for?

[Medusa]

Re: Columbus Day

And what are the Aussies sorry for?

White washing the Aboriginals. Pretty much stealing their children, if I remember correctly.

[Munin-Hugin]

Re: Columbus Day

And what are the Aussies sorry for?

I'd have to think that they should be VERY sorry for releasing Men At Work upon the world.

[Medusa]

Re: Columbus Day

I'd have to think that they should be VERY sorry for releasing Men At Work upon the world.

I loved them when I was younger. I had their actual TAPE!

[Atehequa]

Re: Columbus Day

"A Euro-Pagan??? As opposed to...? I mean, I'm indigenous to Wales if that's any help. If however you mean one of the First Nations then please say so, just to avoid any confusion. I mean, 'We traditional people...' might be a bit vague. After all we're all traditional people up to a point.

But, to set the record straight, I don't think about Columbus day unless or until someone brings it up. And I can well understand why some people get so het and spewed up about it. I would, myself, if I felt on the receiving end of it."

Traditional indigenous people of the western hemisphere.

Too bad it's only upon threads like this that people will even converse with us here at such places.

[Heka]

White washing the Aboriginals. Pretty much stealing their children, if I remember correctly.

Stolen generation. Thats the one.

[Heka]

I'd have to think that they should be VERY sorry for releasing Men At Work upon the world.

What they really should be sorry for is rippung off "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree" (oh the media went mad about that)